In my estimation from these forums, it would seem PSA is probably the best regional out there when you look at the benefits.

- year or less upgrade
- good movement off the top of the seniority list
- taking 3 new airplanes per month for the next 2 years
- flying 200/700/900 series
- Amazing travel benefits on USAirways and American (PSA is a wholly owned regional)
- Best bidding system, ability to drop down to 65 hours if you want to be home more
- Charlotte is a very commutable hub
- Rumored to be adding Chicago as a new domicile
- very laid back people culture

Did I get them all? If I was looking to be a new regional pilot that's where I would go, can't imagine a better place right now.

My guess is some pilots will come to PSA as a new hire, upgrade quickly, then be on to a major airline within 5 years of being a new hire. All while their counterparts who elected to go to the Envoy's and Republics of the world will still be on reserve as an FO after 5 years.

However, to balance this laundry list out a little, there is a lot to be said for the ability to drive to work and if that becomes a major factor, then I would just stay at Envoy if you still hold a seniority number.

I wouldn't count on too much movement from the top of the list for the near future....

Rumor has it no more new hire classes for AAG this year due to furlough recalls. That would negate our 4/month.

That being said there is still good movement on the bottom of the list.

I wasn't really referring to your flow agreement. I have a new hire friend over there who said his seniority number moved up 20 spots from March to April. That's 2% in a month and if that does not include any flow, that's not half bad. Clearly, the movement is much more brisk when you are at the bottom of the list as opposed to the middle or top.

Yes, that movement is all from the bottom of the list. The top end is fairly stagnant.

Getting halfway thru mil pilot training doesn't really negate civ TPIC. I would stay at eagle if you think staying on the titanic was a good idea Maybe it will work out though. I'd do Mesa in dfw. We are growing that base significantly. Who knows when the music will stop with upgrades. JO plans on doubling Mesa in 5 years and plans to have 1000 pilots in DFW alone. Dunno if that's possible or probable, just as estimating the growth or shrinkage of any other regional is a gamble at best. If you can afford to reset your seniority/longevity, that's what I'd do.

Upgrade is not less than a year. The only pilots that upgrade are those with 1000 121 SIC or 135 PIC. If you have 0 time, you are looking at a 3-5 year upgrade, at a minimum.

The 50 seat aircraft will be parked, negating growth.

How do you figure that? If you average 75hrs a month, that's 900hrs in a year...how did upgrades just all of a sudden jump to 3-5yrs from 18months for a 0 timer just a few weeks ago...

It's a 2 year contract for 15 erj145s. It was a deal done in the summer when we were in bitter contract negotiations.

Why is there so much movement at the bottom?

What about with someone getting hired today with 500 hours 121?