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Of course they never asked why there's a shortage to begin with. Some hard hitting reporting by Bloomberg.
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Quote: Of course they never asked why there's a shortage to begin with. Some hard hitting reporting by Bloomberg.
They already know the answer to that.
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Quote: The reason the regionals were created was because too many people said "what about me."
No sir.

They were created by greedy low-life corp. executives to whipsaw pilot groups into accepting lower salaries and benefits. Wake up.
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Quote: No sir.

They were created by greedy low-life corp. executives to whipsaw pilot groups into accepting lower salaries and benefits. Wake up.
Pilots and their scope agreements had something to do with it.
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Quote: That's short-sighted. Again, we are talking about an aviation industry pilot shortage. Yes, now we are discussing shortcomings at the regional airline level, but if you just increase starting pay here, you'll vacuum up all the CFIs and box fliers.

The fact remains that there is an unprecedented retirement happening in the next two decades. The GA infrastructure is becoming non-existent. Flight training costs/college education tuition are skyrocketing. Outside of colleges, there is virtually no way to get financing and if you don't want to take out a loan, it'll take 4-6 years to get airline mins. Yes, an increase of pay at regional A will have no problem with filling seats but it is at the detriment of regional B.

It is more than just pay
Actually it is. If you make this job desirable again, people will find a way to get that loan, go to college for it, or suffer through 1500 hours of flying around the pattern. If you've been in this industry long enough you know that things can change very quickly.

The pilot compensation model especially at the regional level is broken, unlivable wages are not sustainable anymore in 2015. I mean guys are being paid the same amount that pilots were making in 1980!
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Quote: They already know the answer to that.
I'm guessing most still think we make tons of cash.
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Quote: No sir.

They were created by greedy low-life corp. executives to whipsaw pilot groups into accepting lower salaries and benefits. Wake up.
No. Those "low-life's" went to the legacy pilots and asked if they'd fly turbo-props and they said no. So, they said if you want pay raises, you have to let some other company fly props. They jumped on it. The same thing happened with Continental and CoEx. I'm awake and don't live in my own "pilots are perfect" fantasy-land.
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Id like to apologize to everyone here. I didn't realize I was arguing with Doug Parker's lackey.
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Quote: Actually it is. If you make this job desirable again, people will find a way to get that loan, go to college for it, or suffer through 1500 hours of flying around the pattern. If you've been in this industry long enough you know that things can change very quickly.

The pilot compensation model especially at the regional level is broken, unlivable wages are not sustainable anymore in 2015. I mean guys are being paid the same amount that pilots were making in 1980!
If you raise wages immediately, it might fix the problem at the regionals. However, someone needs to sit right seat at fractionals, cargo, and corporate. Someone has to be around to train the new generation. What I'm saying is, the lead time to create new pilots is too long to absorb and if everything stays status quo, we will have a serious problem in the next 5-10 years. Regionals will have to shrink which will not be good for pilots on property. Upgrade times will skyrocket and pilot groups will become too senior. Then they will be whipsawed. If the majors are expected to grow, which they are, this exacerbates the problem.
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Quote: Id like to apologize to everyone here. I didn't realize I was arguing with Doug Parker's lackey.
Here we go again. This is just history. I'm not trying to reimagine how the regionals came about. If you want to just spout false truths in hopes of demonizing companies, you are more than welcome. You are wrong. I'm not a "lackey" or "pro-company." I'm stating facts and using them to create an opinion. It's not my fault you are incapable of having a single critical thought outside of your own personal greed.
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