Day 1. Zero leadership from MD. Zero goals from MD. Zero plan from MD. Same stuff, different day.

Day 2.......

What would Day 1 have looked like if Richard Anderson were MEC chairman?

The very reps that are 100% out of touch with the line pilots at Delta waste a whole day saying how clueless and misinformed we were. How social media brainwashed us.

A 5 year old could have seen this TA was a fail in 10 minutes.

Management returns billions to the shareholders and our vacation gets nowhere near our competitors.

A 5 year old would say, "wait a minute, I have to give up both my milk and graham crackers and only get a olive green crayon in return?"

But it is an industry leading olive green crayon. Our highly paid experts from Crayola have said so....

Sounds like MD just resigned

Somebody hand him a box of cheap golf balls at the meeting, tell him to enjoy the time off....

He probably will.

Naturally internet tough guys like you will be lining up to interview for the job....

And naturally, ALPA lapdogs like you will continue to defend in the indefensible. ALPA reps are SOOO selfless, is that your point? I have more respect for the guys flying the line NOT doing ALPA work than the ones who claim they are our reps, while actually doing nothing but trying to line their own pockets colluding with the company. The fact that this meeting is being held in Herndon, VA, miles away from any base and most line pilots, is just another example of how ALPA doesn't really give two ****s about the people they claim to represent.

A 5 year old said we would have another deal in 48 hours and put $500 on it to boot.

Yeahhhh...

I voted against this TA, and would again. I think DALPA is being delusional if they think that social media caused the NO vote. One of the earlier posts stated it best. The TA language resulted in the NO vote, not any social media spin.

But your post smacks of the same nonsense that so often populates these boards. Most ALPA reps--believe it or not--are not looking to line up at the trough, put in a resume for the Moak Group or any other such conspiratorial stuff. They put themselves out there to do what they thought was best--represent their pilots

If you think that they have done a poor job, then that is fine. There is a recall process, or there is a process to elect replacement reps when the time comes.

And whenever that time comes, those reps will have to deal with the company, deal with day to day issues, deal with negotiations, all in a fairly thankless job so that internet tough guys can throw proverbial slings and arrows their way.

I can still remember a particular day. I was in town in 2008 for a scheduling-related meeting (when I did some LEC scheduling work). At the exact same time was an MEC meeting and the first joint contract TA was announced literally that evening. I was talking to one my LEC reps. Within MINUTES he gets a text from someone just like you that stated "thanks a lot *******"

Now I doubt you will even find anyone who laments that contract as it was a good agreement at that particular time. THAT is the BS that reps have to deal with every day, that you have not a flipping clue about.

So though I disagree with my reps, and the TA, and felt that it never should have been sent to the membership without an enthusiastic MEC endorsement, I will not demonize them, nor attribute selfish greedy motives to them that clearly do not exist other than in internet message board land.

Well said.