How do you counter that the hourly pay rates were published in the contract and those, in fact, were correct.

The dollar amount published for the signing bonus was incorrect, we actually got more.

The signing "bonus", which is really retro pay, should have been based on DOS, just like it has been in the past. The retro pay is for pay lost all the way up through DOS, so it should be based on DOS.

Its not or never has been, "retro pay". If it was, the signing bonus would be more than what was paid.

The literature we received describing the distribution method and the appeal processes referred to it as retro pay.

The MEC Chairman called it retro pay.

If it is presented as Retro Pay, but not distributed as Retro Pay, does that not constitute a problem?





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Is some old data from the "lost decade" that got easy to tout in the old days but is no longer factual or am I missing something?

United (ALPA) and Delta (ALPA) each have approximately FOUR times the number of pilots we have right now. With pay rates at those airlines and ours all in the same ballpark for the sake of this discussion, how could we possibly be "THE biggest" contributor any longer?

I am just guessing, but I think we have more wide body aircraft than either of those airlines. Perhaps someone can check on my guess.

If we have more wide body pilots, our contributions might be "more" than airlines with fewer wide body pilots.

Again, just theorizing. I don't have time to back it up with facts, but I am sure someone else will come along to correct me if I am wrong.

Donate here.

A+ on the effort you put into that.

I don't think so. Look at just one hour of pay. If every pilot at FedEx was a WB captain at max rate(4200x $286), paying all of us for that one hour would cost ~1.2 million. Even if all 13,100 Delta pilots were FOs making 3rd year 757 pay at $130 an hour (13,100x130) you still get 1.7 million.

Just sayin' - With these mega airlines that resulted from the recent consolidation, it's not like it used to be. Probably worth a pause before doing any chest thumping.

We are nowhere near the top contributor to ALPA and haven't been for a long time. Delta has paid more for quite some time.