Who cares.

I believe even dalpa said, back in the day, that they are not economically viable. Zero reason to pay for their demise with concessions.

I have to tip my hat to management, it's quite machiavellian. They have convinced some pilots that we should buy the retirement of the 50 seaters when they are going to do it anyway. Kudos.

I do. The faster they leave, the faster the 76s take over their flying, and the faster more mainline flying takes over 76 seat flying.

Yeah we're all really stupid and you and your posse are really smart. Riiight. You, Jerry and Co. seem to know everything.

So allow them MORE 76 seaters so we can replace 76 seaters???

Something has to fly the current 50 seat markets. You think 76 seat and below is coming back to mainline? Do we want it? Can I hold you to it? If not, who flies it?

Then if that happens, they'll just have to raise the rates.

First year pay would be the same regardless and second year would pay $95 with an 18% increase, which is about a dollar difference between that and our current 717 second year rate. It would top out around $122 right and $180 in 3 years. That's no more a "C Scale" between that and our current smallest fleet rates than it would be calling 717/88/320/737 rates a C Scale compared to a 777.

And that's using worst case existing CRJ-900/E190 rates (yeah that's right, and we almost got those). If they blended it with the E195 rate we'd top out at $211 left and $144 right. Even second year in that case would be $184 and $99.

It would still be the junior airplane, but would likely see very quick upgrades and rapid extreme seniority in the right seat for those who chose to stay.

If that wasn't enough, they'd have to raise rates further with a mid contract increase. Or band it with the 717. I'd be happy to work with them on that.

No more outsourced DC-9 sized "RJs" period.

I think you would be surprisd by the seniority, ORD had farmers that were "Lifers" on the DC-9.

I've been stuck commuting on 50 seaters a lot lately. They absolutely suck and are getting worse all the time. They need to go to the metal shredder asap.