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07-23-2018, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Not true. Or at least, not totally correct. Passenger rail in the US actually causes a relatively HIGH rate of deaths per passenger mile, although those tend NOT to be passenger deaths. Partly this is due to the rather small total passenger miles by US rail, but Amtrak trains in particular are very commonly involved in crossing fatalities since they travel a good 20-25 miles an hour faster than the freight trains that travel on the same rails.
A few very recent examples:
2 days ago · By City News Service | [email protected] | PUBLISHED: July 22, 2018 at 11:45 am | UPDATED: July 22, 2018 at 2:00 pm A train struck and killed a pedestrian on tracks just north of Oceanside today ...
Amtrak Strikes Man on Tracks in Montecito - The Santa Barbara Independent
The Santa Barbara Independent jul a...
4 days ago · A man was killed this morning on the railroad tracks near Montecito's Olive Mill Road, the Sheriff's Office reported. He'd been struck by the northbound Amtrak at about 6:45 a.m. The train engineer had blown .
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PWenstrup describes helping injured in fatal train-truck collision - WHIO Tv
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3 days ago · One person in the truck was killed and another critically injured, while four people in the train were taken to the hospital, including U.S. Rep. Jason Lewis, R- Minnesota, a staffer and two Amtrak crew
A few very recent examples:
2 days ago · By City News Service | [email protected] | PUBLISHED: July 22, 2018 at 11:45 am | UPDATED: July 22, 2018 at 2:00 pm A train struck and killed a pedestrian on tracks just north of Oceanside today ...
Amtrak Strikes Man on Tracks in Montecito - The Santa Barbara Independent
The Santa Barbara Independent jul a...
4 days ago · A man was killed this morning on the railroad tracks near Montecito's Olive Mill Road, the Sheriff's Office reported. He'd been struck by the northbound Amtrak at about 6:45 a.m. The train engineer had blown .
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PWenstrup describes helping injured in fatal train-truck collision - WHIO Tv
https://www.whio.com news congress...
3 days ago · One person in the truck was killed and another critically injured, while four people in the train were taken to the hospital, including U.S. Rep. Jason Lewis, R- Minnesota, a staffer and two Amtrak crew
Also, the Amtrak system is crap. The US had THE BEST high speed rail network in the world, and then we decided to quit doing it, and switch everyone to automobiles. We don't even have one single high speed rail system in the US. For efficient pax train travel, you need high speed rail. High speed rail uses exclusive tracks (not used also by freight trains) that have no rail/road crossings. If a track has to cross the path of a road, either the rail or roadbed goes over the other mode of travel, thus eliminating the possibility of road/rail collisions.
High speed rail is THE most efficient pax system, from about 150-650 miles in length. Above that air travel is more efficient.
07-23-2018, 12:20 PM
#112
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
The above is misleading. Passenger rail in the US includes ALL pax transported by rail...u r ONLY talking about Amtrak, and leaving out the systems that carry the most by rail in the US.
Man killed by commuter train in Mansfield - The Boston Globe
The Boston Globe 2018/04/02 story
Apr 3, 2018 · A man was struck and killed by a Providence-bound MBTA commuter train in Mansfield on Monday night, officials said. The man was hit around 9:30 p.m. near Norfolk Street, according to the ...
Man carrying bicycle struck and killed by commuter train in Ayer | masslive.com
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May 2, 2018 · A man carrying a bicycle was struck and killed by an MBTA commuter trail while walking on the tracks near the Ayer station Wednesday afternoon.
Man killed by commuter train in Cambridge Boston News, Weather, Sports | WHDH 7News - WHDH.com
WHDH news one-man-dead-after-bei...
Jan 21, 2018 · CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) Boston-area transit police say a man has been struck and killed by a commuter train in Cambridge. Police, firefighters and emergency medical crews ...
Woman Killed by Commuter Train | Florida News | US News
U.S. News & World Report articles w...
Mar 8, 2018 · DELRAY BEACH, Fla. (AP) Authorities say a woman is dead after being hit by a Florida commuter train.
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Stop drinking the koolaid and do some actual research.
07-23-2018, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
High speed rail is THE most efficient pax system, from about 150-650 miles in length. Above that air travel is more efficient.
07-24-2018, 11:36 PM
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I just looked at some stats:
In the US:
Flying is safest
Then Bus
Then rail. Rail is MANY times safer than automobile.
Autos
Motorcycles
Worldwide, airline travel is safest, then rail.
In Japan, however, rail is THE safest mode of transportation. They have had ZERO fatalities in their high speed rail network, since Day One! Amazing!
In the US:
Flying is safest
Then Bus
Then rail. Rail is MANY times safer than automobile.
Autos
Motorcycles
Worldwide, airline travel is safest, then rail.
In Japan, however, rail is THE safest mode of transportation. They have had ZERO fatalities in their high speed rail network, since Day One! Amazing!
07-25-2018, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Second verse, same as the first:
Man killed by commuter train in Mansfield - The Boston Globe
The Boston Globe 2018/04/02 story
Apr 3, 2018 · A man was struck and killed by a Providence-bound MBTA commuter train in Mansfield on Monday night, officials said. The man was hit around 9:30 p.m. near Norfolk Street, according to the ...
Man carrying bicycle struck and killed by commuter train in Ayer | masslive.com
MassLive.com index.ssf 2018/05 m...
May 2, 2018 · A man carrying a bicycle was struck and killed by an MBTA commuter trail while walking on the tracks near the Ayer station Wednesday afternoon.
Man killed by commuter train in Cambridge Boston News, Weather, Sports | WHDH 7News - WHDH.com
WHDH news one-man-dead-after-bei...
Jan 21, 2018 · CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) Boston-area transit police say a man has been struck and killed by a commuter train in Cambridge. Police, firefighters and emergency medical crews ...
Woman Killed by Commuter Train | Florida News | US News
U.S. News & World Report articles w...
Mar 8, 2018 · DELRAY BEACH, Fla. (AP) Authorities say a woman is dead after being hit by a Florida commuter train.
........
Stop drinking the koolaid and do some actual research.
Man killed by commuter train in Mansfield - The Boston Globe
The Boston Globe 2018/04/02 story
Apr 3, 2018 · A man was struck and killed by a Providence-bound MBTA commuter train in Mansfield on Monday night, officials said. The man was hit around 9:30 p.m. near Norfolk Street, according to the ...
Man carrying bicycle struck and killed by commuter train in Ayer | masslive.com
MassLive.com index.ssf 2018/05 m...
May 2, 2018 · A man carrying a bicycle was struck and killed by an MBTA commuter trail while walking on the tracks near the Ayer station Wednesday afternoon.
Man killed by commuter train in Cambridge Boston News, Weather, Sports | WHDH 7News - WHDH.com
WHDH news one-man-dead-after-bei...
Jan 21, 2018 · CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) Boston-area transit police say a man has been struck and killed by a commuter train in Cambridge. Police, firefighters and emergency medical crews ...
Woman Killed by Commuter Train | Florida News | US News
U.S. News & World Report articles w...
Mar 8, 2018 · DELRAY BEACH, Fla. (AP) Authorities say a woman is dead after being hit by a Florida commuter train.
........
Stop drinking the koolaid and do some actual research.
07-25-2018, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
To be fair, if they let people freely walk across runways at airports there'd be plenty of deaths. That's a design problem, not an operation problem.
For safe rail transit, the train needs to be elevated, or underground.
Japan is putting in a maglev train from Tokyo-Nagoya-Osaka. The Tokyo-Nagoya route is costing them about $1BILLION USD per mile...they have 47? major tunnels on that route, due to their geography. They did the math, and realized that this expense will save their government a TON of money, due to increased efficiencies in their transportation infrastructure.
Meanwhile, US airports, seaports, waterways, ATC, roads, bridges, etc., etc. are crumbling into dust.
07-26-2018, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
EXACTLY!
For safe rail transit, the train needs to be elevated, or underground.
Japan is putting in a maglev train from Tokyo-Nagoya-Osaka. The Tokyo-Nagoya route is costing them about $1BILLION USD per mile...they have 47? major tunnels on that route, due to their geography. They did the math, and realized that this expense will save their government a TON of money, due to increased efficiencies in their transportation infrastructure.
Meanwhile, US airports, seaports, waterways, ATC, roads, bridges, etc., etc. are crumbling into dust.
For safe rail transit, the train needs to be elevated, or underground.
Japan is putting in a maglev train from Tokyo-Nagoya-Osaka. The Tokyo-Nagoya route is costing them about $1BILLION USD per mile...they have 47? major tunnels on that route, due to their geography. They did the math, and realized that this expense will save their government a TON of money, due to increased efficiencies in their transportation infrastructure.
Meanwhile, US airports, seaports, waterways, ATC, roads, bridges, etc., etc. are crumbling into dust.
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