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threeighteen 08-30-2018 01:27 PM

Pretty appalling how many mainline guys over in the United version of this thread don't seem to care that they are violating a jumpseat agreement and make SkyWest out to be the bad guys for trying to get them to honor what they've agreed to.

awax 08-30-2018 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 2665225)
Pretty appalling how many mainline guys over in the United version of this thread don't seem to care that they are violating a jumpseat agreement and make SkyWest out to be the bad guys for trying to get them to honor what they've agreed to.

Equally appalling, if not more so, Skywest’s pilot leadership putting out communications threading institutionalused withholding of cockpit Jumpseats for a subset of pilots.

There ways to address this successfully, and this ain’t it.

threeighteen 08-30-2018 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2665247)
Equally appalling, if not more so, Skywest’s pilot leadership putting out communications threading institutionalused withholding of cockpit Jumpseats for a subset of pilots.

There ways to address this successfully, and this ain’t it.

Last time United tried a stunt like this (yes, that's correct, this isn't the first time), all efforts were exhausted, proper channels pursued, etc and nothing became of those, so the jumpseats were denied. The problem got fixed. Can you really blame SkyWest's pilot leadership for telling everyone that if it doesn't get fixed, they'll resort to using a method that they know works?

amcnd 08-30-2018 04:04 PM

They put out a statement saying don’t use the Jumpseat as a war tool. No-one is using the Jumpseat that way!! All just APC talk...

rickair7777 08-30-2018 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 2665294)
Last time United tried a stunt like this (yes, that's correct, this isn't the first time), all efforts were exhausted, proper channels pursued, etc and nothing became of those, so the jumpseats were denied. The problem got fixed. Can you really blame SkyWest's pilot leadership for telling everyone that if it doesn't get fixed, they'll resort to using a method that they know works?

I don't blame them one bit (lived through the last one).

But they should be sure and exhaust ALL normal efforts through channels before threatening the J Bomb in public... even a hint of that stirs up hate and discontent, which could impact attitudes towards hiring of SKW peeps in some circles. Already the topic du jour over at mainline...

word302 08-30-2018 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2665370)
I don't blame them one bit (lived through the last one).

But they should be sure and exhaust ALL normal efforts through channels before threatening the J Bomb in public... even a hint of that stirs up hate and discontent, which could impact attitudes towards hiring of SKW peeps in some circles. Already the topic du jour over at mainline...

Too late, someone already leaked AA's letter with the J bomb in it, which is why it's already become a ****storm.

willd 08-30-2018 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2665204)
Update just came out. Said expect something jointly from all UAX operators... will see..

Can you post that?

word302 08-30-2018 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by willd (Post 2665414)
Can you post that?

Someone sharing internal memos is what started this whole mess.

willd 08-30-2018 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2665425)
Someone sharing internal memos is what started this whole mess.

nothing internal about a threat to deny JS.

Russ and Aric are gonna bring a world of hurt down on Skywest

word302 08-30-2018 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by willd (Post 2665455)
nothing internal about a threat to deny JS.

Russ and Aric are gonna bring a world of hurt down on Skywest

With any luck one of them will be gone soon. Stuck with the other for a while though. For the record it wasn't much of a threat. Definitely a poorly thought-out memo that has since been "modified".


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