Of all the mountains SAPA could have chosen to die on, it surprises me they picked this one.

If they’re represented by ALPA I believe that will cause a problem. ALPA national would definitely take UAs side.

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ALPA national has absolutely no way of doing anything about this. This issue is between MECs at each airline and their respective managements.

IMO as much as SkyWest management hates unions I can't see them bowing down to UAL ALPA over this jump seat BS.

It would show the rank and file that unions do have a presence and can make a difference.

It will be interesting how this plays out?

If that’s the case, then this may work. We were told that ALPA UAX carriers would probably not be able to participate. I suspect if all UAX carriers held the line on this, then it would get fixed.

Even if that's the case, it wouldn't be a legal issue really. Legality has to do with laws, not union policies. I don't see why one MEC couldn't take action against another MEC which is trying to change an agreement without an agreement of terms. Union might not like it, I suppose they might have the power to threaten to drop that MEC from ALPA, though they wouldn't ($$$).

But I could be mistaken, which is why I asked, in case I was missing something.

No MEC has power over any other MEC, let alone the power to drop an MEC from ALPA. That’s not the way ALPA is set up. Each individual pilot group is independent of the other and from national.

Jumpseat agreements are by mutual and reciprocal agreement. If an agreement cannot be made, and therefore cancelled, there is no ability to Jumpseat on that carrier. And the only thing that can be done is to cancel any reciprocal agreement. That’s not ideal for anyone, including management.

FYI guys. United ex SkyWester here. You have a few people over in the UAL section tossing bombs. These randos are being quoted all over the interwebs and the anger level on the UAL side is approaching critical mass. I’d recommend telling them to relax and let SAPA do the talking until the time comes to distribute a letter.

I’d also like to remind everyone the last SAPA rep to not have a medical M.E. Sold out OO pilots and R.J. May not have one, I’m not positive he can get another job paying what he gets at OO. That’s bad juju.

I would also not trust anything the “pilots pilot” VP says about backing up SAPA reps and line pilots in this fight. Without making a statement on the merits of this argument, I could see TT changing the FOM without SAPA concurance. Because he can. And he doesn’t give a sh!t about any SkyWest pilot except himself.

Best wishes to everyone. I’m sure this will get ironed out. But if push comes to shove, I would be careful. TT wants lower attrition and UAL blacklisting OO guys would be good for him. Then he’ll sell you out and give UAL whatever they want.

TT? :confused: