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peepz 09-21-2018 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2678288)
If you decide to start randomly, of your own accord, denying jumpseats, you will severely limit your career. I see you deleted your previous post about it. Don't do it, let the people who's job it is to figure this out do their jobs. That's all I'm saying. That and don't troll the old guys in the United forum, that doesn't help your case.

Check my post hero... I haven’t even gone into the other forum trolling, because all it is non stop banter.

First come, first serve jumpseat like it has always been. I am not worried about my job prospects or my co-workers job prospects at UAL, it’s totally out of my hands who UAL decides to hire. I highly doubt UAL will blacklist all OO pilots or any carriers that are just trying to do their job to get to work.

Also it’s not randomly denying jumpseats if I’m following my FOM and agreement that has been the agreement in place before one company decides its time to change the whole priority. It’s pretty simple if a UAL guy checks in first they get the seat, if a express guy checks in first they get the seat.

rickair7777 09-21-2018 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2678288)
If you decide to start randomly, of your own accord, denying jumpseats, you will severely limit your career. I see you deleted your previous post about it. Don't do it, let the people who's job it is to figure this out do their jobs. That's all I'm saying. That and don't troll the old guys in the United forum, that doesn't help your case.

Yeah, unless you unilaterally go over the top and get into it in person with someone with connections at UAL, you won't get blacklisted. No airline "blacklists" candidates because a single line pilot has a personal axe to grind. Stay professional, if it comes right down to it, apologize profusely, hand them a copy of whatever statement UAX come's up with, and go about your business.

But professional in this case means you do need to have an apologetic face-to-face discussion with someone you deny. If they get denied by the gate, they won't even know why.

domino 09-21-2018 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2675360)
IMO as much as SkyWest management hates unions I can't see them bowing down to UAL ALPA over this jump seat BS.

It would show the rank and file that unions do have a presence and can make a difference.

It will be interesting how this plays out?

They’ll bow down as soon as pilots can’t get to work because they are being kicked off Jumpseats. Operational intergrity speaks

ReadyRsv 09-21-2018 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2678438)
Yeah, unless you unilaterally go over the top and get into it in person with someone with connections at UAL, you won't get blacklisted. No airline "blacklists" candidates because a single line pilot has a personal axe to grind. Stay professional, if it comes right down to it, apologize profusely, hand them a copy of whatever statement UAX come's up with, and go about your business.

But professional in this case means you do need to have an apologetic face-to-face discussion with someone you deny. If they get denied by the gate, they won't even know why.

I agree. Peepz changed his original post where he said he would implement his own system after a FOM
Change which is why I brought up the whole thing. I wish everyone the best and am sure cooler heads will prevail.

peepz 09-21-2018 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2678586)
I agree. Peepz changed his original post where he said he would implement his own system after a FOM
Change which is why I brought up the whole thing. I wish everyone the best and am sure cooler heads will prevail.

They haven’t changed or nor will they change our FOM.

Read the posts “First come, first serve jumpseat like it has always been. I am not worried about my job prospects or my co-workers job prospects at UAL, it’s totally out of my hands who UAL decides to hire. I highly doubt UAL will blacklist all OO pilots or any carriers that are just trying to do their job to get to work. ”

Westernflight 09-27-2018 06:42 AM

Anyone else locked out of the original Jumpseat war thread in the United forum?

word302 09-27-2018 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Westernflight (Post 2681773)
Anyone else locked out of the original Jumpseat war thread in the United forum?

Pretty sure that dumpster fire was deleted.

Bonanzer 09-28-2018 05:08 AM

Nice work guys and gals. We just got a union email from the Republic jumpseat committee saying the priority has been fixed. Thanks for taking a stand with us!

TheWeatherman 09-28-2018 05:53 AM

Great job on the jumpseat committee and to Skywest and Republic for coming together! I would advise from gloating too much. No need to rub salt on the wound here. All that happened was an agreement to keep the current agreement in-place instead of a unilateral land grab from UAL. Reciprocal agreements are two ways not one.

Viking6 09-28-2018 07:09 AM

Simply maintaining the status quo. We give the teamsters a lot of crap, but it sounds like the teamster airline division really went to bat on this issue. I’m sure this isn’t the end of this issue, but prevents unilateral changes.


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