Search

Notices
SkyWest Regional Airline

SkyWest ALPA 2.0

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:00 AM
  #121  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 427
Default

Originally Posted by word302
You don't find it interesting that literally every ex SAPA rep supports getting a union on board? That should really be all you need to know.
Most current reps I have spoken to support ALPA.

The current SAPA President was on the Organizing Committee during the 2007 drive. Where he truly stands today, I'm not sure. Getting fired by SkyWest and re-hired may have changed his attitude towards management...
savedbythevnav is offline  
Old 10-03-2018, 11:06 AM
  #122  
Squawking 2000
 
Winston's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: Skeptical
Posts: 737
Default

Originally Posted by savedbythevnav
Getting fired by SkyWest and re-hired may have changed his attitude towards management...
In psychology, it’s called “Traumatic Bonding”:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traumatic_bonding
Winston is offline  
Old 10-03-2018, 11:19 AM
  #123  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 846
Default

Originally Posted by savedbythevnav
Indirectly, yes. Hence the reason the proposed reduction in dues to 1.85% won't be good for the smaller groups, correct?



The kool-aid runs deep at OO. Most guys either can't or won't see the benefits of ALPA. Apparently we don't need a union, we have "guiding principles."


Yes, some of the dues money that mainline pilots pay, winds it’s way to smaller MECs (not just regional airlines). The reasoning for lowering dues is as the membership grows, you can lower dues and still provide the same level of services. If they lower it, it’ll be the second time in the last few years they’ve done so. And if APA merges with ALPA, I could see it go to 1.5%. Skywest joining could also be a catalyst to lowering dues considering the number of pilots, even before APA merges with ALPA.
Nevjets is offline  
Old 10-03-2018, 11:20 AM
  #124  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 427
Default

Originally Posted by Winston
In psychology, it’s called “Traumatic Bonding”:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traumatic_bonding
Is this Dr. Capt. RG himself?
savedbythevnav is offline  
Old 10-03-2018, 01:13 PM
  #125  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,648
Default

Originally Posted by WesternSkies
No. You don’t need any more information. The word I used tells you all you need to know about that event. Check complete has raised suspicion of the integrity of our ASAP program. He has endangered a safety program out of ignorance or maliciousness.
Unacceptable.
That’s some interesting interpolation SMH. I understood his reply referencing the value of a good legal teem in the event something happens. The other fact he mentions is Skywest doesn’t have that luxury. I’m also pretty sure the merits of ASAP programs are also widely understood. And let’s face it, without ALPA that wouldn’t even exist at Skywest. But the point is, the ALPA, legal team would be in your corner if needed
gojo is offline  
Old 10-03-2018, 01:36 PM
  #126  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Skyhawk121's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 228
Default

How long ago did this crew get term'd? I was asking some people in a crew lounge if they knew about anything recent and no one seemed to know what I was referring to.
Skyhawk121 is offline  
Old 10-03-2018, 02:08 PM
  #127  
Prime Minister/Moderator
 
rickair7777's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,554
Default

Originally Posted by Skyhawk121
How long ago did this crew get term'd? I was asking some people in a crew lounge if they knew about anything recent and no one seemed to know what I was referring to.
Don't know, but guessing a low-speed event? SGU has been running a bit scared on those, probably for good reason.
rickair7777 is offline  
Old 10-03-2018, 02:51 PM
  #128  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 846
Default SkyWest ALPA 2.0

SENATE GIVES FINAL APPROVAL TO FAA REAUTHORIZATION
Today, ALPA commended Congress on the final passage of a five-year reauthorization of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) after the Senate passed the final bill in a 93–6 vote. The long-term bill will keep flying safe and the piloting profession strong.
"Today's final passage of the FAA reauthorization bill is a major step forward for the safety and security of our nation's skies. By keeping pilot qualification and training requirements strong and two fully qualified pilots in the cockpit, Congress has taken significant steps to ensure that flying remains the safest mode of transportation—and that the United States remains a global aviation leader," said Capt. Tim Canoll, ALPA president. "We are grateful for the bipartisan leadership in the House and Senate, and for the thousands of ALPA members who worked tirelessly to ensure that the priorities of the professional airline pilot were incorporated into this landmark agreement."

ALPA TESTIFIES BEFORE U.S. HOUSE ON INSIDER THREATS TO CARGO AND PASSENGER FLIGHTS
In testimony before the U.S. House Transportation and Protective Security Subcommittee, ALPA commended the recent aviation security improvements led by Congress but underscored that insider threats to both passenger, and particularly, all-cargo flight operations remain a serious concern.
"ALPA appreciates the leadership of Chairman Rep. John Katko (R-N.Y.) and Ranking Member Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-N.J.) and the subcommittee's interest in reducing the real threat posed by anyone with intent to harm while working inside the air transportation system," said Capt. Tim Canoll, ALPA's president, who testified at the hearing.
ALPA described an "insider" in aviation as someone with authorization and unescorted access to secured airport areas such as the security identification display area known as the "SIDA." Insider threats, which can result from such causes as malicious intent, complacency, or a lack of awareness, can result in actions such as the aircraft theft that occurred recently near Seattle–Tacoma International Airport.
The testimony also noted the danger posed to passenger and cargo flights as well as to communities on the ground. The Association called on Congress to help achieve one level of security for passenger and cargo flight operations with swift policy action including a requirement for hardened cockpit doors and secondary barriers on all commercial aircraft. http://www.alpa.org/news-and-events/...senger-flights

HAZMAT WORKSHOP REMINDS SHIPPERS: "CHECK THE BOX"
Pictured here during the PHMSA workshop, left to right, Capt. DePete with Wes Westbrook and Marc Nichols of PHMSA.
On September 27, the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA) held workshops in Anchorage, Alaska, to educate shippers of hazardous materials (hazmat) on the U.S. Department of Transportation's Hazardous Materials Regulations—with a specific emphasis on undeclared hazmat.
Capt. Joe DePete, ALPA first vice president and national safety coordinator, praised PHMSA, stating that, "This is a game changer—the carriage of undeclared hazardous materials is a safety concern that the ALPA has been working on for years. We are proud as a partner with PHMSA to provide the line-pilot perspective in addressing the risks posed by such items."
"Our focus isn't to stop hazardous materials shipments but quite the opposite," DePete continued. "We want to ensure that these shipments continue, but that they are done safely, and that shipments are properly declared, packaged, and labeled."
A new safety awareness initiative called "Check the Box" addresses the lack of industry and public awareness on the rules governing the shipment of hazmat. The campaign is designed to educate the public and industry on how some items, such as lithium batteries and other common household goods, pose hidden dangers if handled improperly. ALPA members can help spread the word on this important safety issue and education campaign.

ADVANCING SAFETY THROUGH COLLABORATION AT ASAP WORKSHOP
Yesterday in Minneapolis, Minn., industry professionals gathered for an Aviation Safety Action Program (ASAP) workshop hosted by ALPA's Air Safety Organization (ASO). The workshop fostered a collaborative environment for various stakeholders—ALPA MEC safety reps, airline management, and the FAA—to evaluate their programs openly and honestly. Discussions focused on program difficulties and successes, including development and implementation of best practices.
ALPA Aviation Safety chairman Capt. Steve Jangelis (DAL) opened the workshop, stating, "We are in the safest period we have ever been in aviation, but we can take that further."
Attendees participated in an active presentation by Capt. Dan Coogan (DAL), his carrier's Central Air Safety Committee chairman and ALPA Safety Information Analysis Program director, to advance ASAP and create a more robust reporting culture. The group discussed a range of topics including implementation of an ASAP administrative plan, the best ways to increase flow of critical safety information from a crew to the rest of the organization, and the long-awaited Advisory Circular 120-66C, which still has not been published.

PROMOTING IMPORTANCE OF VOLUNTARY SAFETY PROGRAMS AT ATC CONFERENCE
Today at the Air Traffic Control Association (ATCA) Conference in Washington, D.C., Capt. Steve Jangelis (DAL), ALPA's Aviation Safety chair, participated on a panel that discussed proactive safety in an evolving national airspace system.
Capt. Jangelis reiterated the importance of voluntary safety programs and how these programs have been essential in achieving the safety record that we have today. He shared with the audience the value of safety data and highlighted the importance of trust to ensuring the continued success of these programs.
As the panel discussed new technologies, Capt. Jangelis shared the importance of ensuring that we as an industry integrate human factors into every aspect of the design, implementation, and operations of these technologies. He reminded the group of the importance of building these new tools with the end users, both pilots and controllers, at the start of the conversation: "Operators must be involved in the process and ensure that the technologies work for us."
Nevjets is offline  
Old 10-03-2018, 03:31 PM
  #129  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 427
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777
Don't know, but guessing a low-speed event? SGU has been running a bit scared on those, probably for good reason.
A crew was term'd for a slow speed event (can we just call them stalls because they actually stalled). SAPA somehow got them their jobs back and TG overruled it and fired them anyway.

Allegedly.

I heard this from several people so it must be true, right?
savedbythevnav is offline  
Old 10-03-2018, 04:04 PM
  #130  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,508
Default

Originally Posted by savedbythevnav
A crew was term'd for a slow speed event (can we just call them stalls because they actually stalled). SAPA somehow got them their jobs back and TG overruled it and fired them anyway.

Allegedly.

I heard this from several people so it must be true, right?
A shaker or even a pusher is not a stall. Not trying to make light of the situation but very few people have actually stalled a transport category aircraft.
word302 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Birddog
United
236
08-11-2016 07:55 AM
TheManager
Major
9584
07-28-2015 12:15 PM
superduck
Union Talk
420
06-20-2011 10:00 PM
KingAirPIC
Regional
181
01-22-2008 09:54 AM
iahflyr
Regional
44
01-17-2008 10:58 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices