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TeamSasquatch 02-14-2021 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3195175)
This right here. Just finishing up a trip on the -200. Sitting at a hub waiting for our 3-hour-delayed aircraft to show up. In the past 2 days, on six out of eight legs, we had no APU (really great in the middle of the winter wonderland we're experiencing right now,) plus a deferred FMS. Not one -- not even one of our legs has departed within 3 hours of scheduled departure, and only one of those delays was wx-induced -- the other 7 legs were all significant mx delays.

Today we did 3 legs in an airplane with 5 deferrals, and they weren't for NEF or trivial stuff either. No APU, no APR, no FMS -- all on the same airplane -- means lots of extra hassle when you consider the weak / unavailable huffer carts at most outstations (never mind ground air), the refusal of ground crews at many hubs to air-start both engines at the gate (meaning in the middle of an LAX departure bank, you have to beg Ground to let you stop somewhere to do a cross-bleed). Oh, and ground power carts that keep crapping out and plunging your cabin into the dark since you've got no APU. Mind you, you don't get paid for any of this extra stuff. None of it.

I used to kinda love the Deuce but they're getting really, really, really tired. In general I think we have pretty decent mx here, but there are no spare aircraft, ever, anywhere. And the ones that are here, are breaking at a worse rate than I've ever seen.

I hate to say this but it's time for these birds to go to the desert. And I say that as someone who truly enjoys flying the Deuce.

After reading this, I don’t know how anyone could see them going any place other than feeder cargo for UPS. 1.0hrs of MX time 5 days a week, no real rush to push, multiple MEL’s. They could live on for decades.

brockenspectre 02-15-2021 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3195175)
This right here. Just finishing up a trip on the -200. Sitting at a hub waiting for our 3-hour-delayed aircraft to show up. In the past 2 days, on six out of eight legs, we had no APU (really great in the middle of the winter wonderland we're experiencing right now,) plus a deferred FMS. Not one -- not even one of our legs has departed within 3 hours of scheduled departure, and only one of those delays was wx-induced -- the other 7 legs were all significant mx delays.

Today we did 3 legs in an airplane with 5 deferrals, and they weren't for NEF or trivial stuff either. No APU, no APR, no FMS -- all on the same airplane -- means lots of extra hassle when you consider the weak / unavailable huffer carts at most outstations (never mind ground air), the refusal of ground crews at many hubs to air-start both engines at the gate (meaning in the middle of an LAX departure bank, you have to beg Ground to let you stop somewhere to do a cross-bleed). Oh, and ground power carts that keep crapping out and plunging your cabin into the dark since you've got no APU. Mind you, you don't get paid for any of this extra stuff. None of it.

I used to kinda love the Deuce but they're getting really, really, really tired. In general I think we have pretty decent mx here, but there are no spare aircraft, ever, anywhere. And the ones that are here, are breaking at a worse rate than I've ever seen.

I hate to say this but it's time for these birds to go to the desert. And I say that as someone who truly enjoys flying the Deuce.

Tip of the iceberg.....just wait until summer kicks in and we will be yearning for what is happening now.

domino 02-15-2021 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Dream (Post 3195108)
Just talked with a ground school instructor and he says he was told to get ready for erj classes again. Of course I’m not gunna believe it until I see it though. Wasn’t much more he could say, probably a non disclosure agreement in place somewhere.

nah. He just didn’t know what he was talking about and as the schoolhouse rumor mill goes, was talking out of his a— as usual.

trip 02-15-2021 07:11 AM

It's going to be at least one smallish ERJ in April then CRJ for the rest of summer. Here's to popping both packs on the bleed swap@#$!

ComingInHot 02-15-2021 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 3195352)
It's going to be at least one smallish ERJ in April then CRJ for the rest of summer.

Out of curiosity, who told you that classes are going to continue?

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Jet J 02-15-2021 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 3195352)
It's going to be at least one smallish ERJ in April then CRJ for the rest of summer. Here's to popping both packs on the bleed swap@#$!

Is this for the guys getting recalled?
or ots hires?

amcnd 02-15-2021 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Jet J (Post 3195362)
Is this for the guys getting recalled?
or ots hires?

Im guessing transitions for the ERJ. That jives with what has been said. ERJ class April. Then not tell fall. CRJ classes through summer.

Turbosina 02-15-2021 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 3195373)
Im guessing transitions for the ERJ. That jives with what has been said. ERJ class April. Then not tell fall. CRJ classes through summer.

That's what V.D. said in a note someone posted on the salad forum, so I agree this is the most likely outcome...

ComingInHot 02-15-2021 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3195448)
That's what V.D. said in a note someone posted on the salad forum, so I agree this is the most likely outcome...

CRJ classes through the summer, does that mean they will call back pilots with a CJO and a previous class date after they are done with the pilots who were in training already?

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amcnd 02-15-2021 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by ComingInHot (Post 3195471)
CRJ classes through the summer, does that mean they will call back pilots with a CJO and a previous class date after they are done with the pilots who were in training already?

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no one knows. Depends on how big or small the classes are and attrition and block hours...


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