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Originally Posted by PilotPanda
(Post 3196128)
I'd mostly like to hear that they for sure aren't going to flush the pool. I want to see it from the top in writing. That they are going to honor old job offers in the order they were originally scheduled. We have no assurance they're not going to replace the pool with Compass and Express Jet folks who blow me out of the water and I have no way to compete with. If I was in management I sure would. But I hope they don't.
They cancelled upgrade classes (something that is not a mechanism allowed at all by the PPM) for people who were less than 24hrs away from their left seat check ride and told them "tough luck, bid again." I hope that helps you re-adjust your expectations. |
Originally Posted by PilotPanda
(Post 3196128)
I'd mostly like to hear that they for sure aren't going to flush the pool. I want to see it from the top in writing. That they are going to honor old job offers in the order they were originally scheduled. We have no assurance they're not going to replace the pool with Compass and Express Jet folks who blow me out of the water and I have no way to compete with. If I was in management I sure would. But I hope they don't.
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Originally Posted by TJBrass
(Post 3196185)
Compass and ExpressJet Pilots already have ATPs and passed part 121 initial training at some point. In the company's eyes, that is a safer investment than a 1200 hour CFI swimming in the pool. Just be patient.
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Originally Posted by Claxstarr
(Post 3196167)
That took less than 48 hours to prove you wrong.... again.
April ERJ Transition and Upgrade classes are confirmed. So the company plans to grow ERJ pilots via the CRJ transition route? Maybe, perhaps, someday, street hiring of mil and 121 pilots. Feels like a cost savings. |
Originally Posted by PilotPanda
(Post 3196190)
I understand they're not going to do it. They asked what we'd like to hear. That's what I would like. Mesa has been sending monthly updates to the pool. They're not guaranteeing anything either but its nice to hear something. And some guy called me a he. Not a he.
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Originally Posted by Meep
(Post 3196180)
My guess is he’s a young kid whose upset he won’t be at a legacy by 25.
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Originally Posted by R0GER BALL
(Post 3196191)
Looking at the vacancy report, not much CRJ growth (just 20% of those in class today). Looks like CRJ growth is ERJ transition borne. Fine. But that growth will be slow.
So the company plans to grow ERJ pilots via the CRJ transition route? Maybe, perhaps, someday, street hiring of mil and 121 pilots. Feels like a cost savings. Easier to run all new hires through one program. Also, in my (and many others) opinions, all new hires really should start on the CRJ to learn how to fly a jet before moving to the ERJ which has a much higher level of automation. CRJ->ERJ pilots produce a much better product. I believe the failure rate from the last few months of normal ERJ new hire classes was less than optimal. Also, once the new AA -700’s come online in DFW over the next few months, I’d expect to see CRJ upgrade classes... and then eventually the ERJ coming online in Q4 as well for AA. The next 6 months of training department schedules should be interesting. |
Originally Posted by R0GER BALL
(Post 3196195)
I agree with that.
You guys also need to realize WHY Mesa is sending out updates like that. They have a much harder time keeping people interested in their company. Their hiring pool is much much smaller than companies like Skywest/Republic/Endeavor/Envoy/etc.. and for good reason. |
Originally Posted by Claxstarr
(Post 3196199)
Easier to run all new hires through one program.
Also, in my (and many others) opinions, all new hires really should start on the CRJ to learn how to fly a jet before moving to the ERJ which has a much higher level of automation. CRJ->ERJ pilots produce a much better product. I believe the failure rate from the last few months of normal ERJ new hire classes was less than optimal. Also, once the new AA -700’s come online in DFW over the next few months, I’d expect to see CRJ upgrade classes... and then eventually the ERJ coming online in Q4 as well for AA. The next 6 months of training department schedules should be interesting. I was wrong to say slow growth. Its growth. Growth is growth. Which is awesome. Hoping it kick-starts a third class. |
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