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Meep 02-19-2021 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 3196996)
it’s kore of OO is moving 200’s from DL to UA and adding 700 for AA. Still about 40 aircraft growth at the end of 2021. Plus 30 leaving a month.. newhire but June is my intel...

Just curious but where are 30/month going?

The LCCs hiring haven’t started running classes yet. Everyone going to ACMI?

CRJiceADsucks 02-19-2021 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by Meep (Post 3197029)
Just curious but where are 30/month going?

The LCCs hiring haven’t started running classes yet. Everyone going to ACMI?


I mean I’d bet at least a few are finding jobs outside the industry.

threeighteen 02-19-2021 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 3196973)
Skywest is not *adding* 200s. 500 pilot jobs worth of 200s went to storage with covid, if we pull some back out we are still negative.
Everyone likes a good internet debate but I think most would see the CRJ as the more likely fleet to shrink.

Not adding 200s.... except for the ones that keep showing up with PSA tail numbers.... ;)

And of the 55 that came off contract with DL, 36 of those are filtering through the paint shops and showing up on line in new UA paint. I think you also forgot that TSA and ExpressJet got shut down and it’s up to OO and C5 to backfill that void as soon as things recover. And we all know C5 doesn’t have the resources to spool up quick. The other 19 went back to Pinnacolaba.

SkyWest has also added several new EAS routes on the deuce in the last 12 months that they will still have to fly as demand returns. JST, RST, MCW, FOD, ALS, VCT, etc

As soon as things come back, DL is going to be begging OO to find some 550s for them to fly from DTW to IND, and OO will say something to the effect of “sorry, you didn’t renew the leases on the 700s that we were flying for you, so we placed them with another carrier, oh and there are literally 0 CRJ 700s on the planet for sale right now, sorry. We can fly a deuce on that route for you though?” And Delta will begrudgingly accept because they are maxed out on scope, their bonds are rated as junk, and they need to exploit every source of potential profit.

This industry is cyclical and SkyWest is the only airline that seems to understand and prepare for not only the downturn but also the upturn.

When a mainline CEO like Ed or Scott open their mouth you need to understand that what they are doing is something called lip service and that they have no real commitment to what they are saying, especially when they forecast the death of the 50 seater which has been done numerous times already in the last decade before the virus.

amcnd 02-19-2021 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Meep (Post 3197029)
Just curious but where are 30/month going?

The LCCs hiring haven’t started running classes yet. Everyone going to ACMI?


we have 5300 pilots. Thats pretty low percentage. Most captains. Cargo fedEX ext... FO’s corporate gigs. (At least the ones I've talked to... )

threeighteen 02-19-2021 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Meep (Post 3197029)
Just curious but where are 30/month going?

The LCCs hiring haven’t started running classes yet. Everyone going to ACMI?

Some are getting fired. Some are going to fly cargo. Some are going to Spirit. Some are going to Breeze. I’ve seen others go to firefighting and corporate flying jobs. Others go back to non aviation jobs.

Some are retiring (the number one guy just did).

PorkyMcFuzz 02-19-2021 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Meep (Post 3197029)
Just curious but where are 30/month going?

The LCCs hiring haven’t started running classes yet. Everyone going to ACMI?

Sounds like reserve roulette is still going on from what I have read...

furloughfuntime 02-19-2021 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by CRJJ (Post 3196852)
Make yourself a favor and drop the "female" thing. All people will care about in the cockpit is if you're a good pilot, a good crew member and professional. Those 3 things, no race no gender.

You guys were referring to her as a guy. She wasn't drawing attention to being a female, just wanted to stop being referred to as a dude.

Make yourself a favor and drop the condescension. You wouldn't like it if your flight attendant was calling you she or her, so why she would want to be called a dude. Be a professional. It's not that hard.

CRJJ 02-19-2021 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by furloughfuntime (Post 3197197)
You guys were referring to her as a guy. She wasn't drawing attention to being a female, just wanted to stop being referred to as a dude.

Make yourself a favor and drop the condescension. You wouldn't like it if your flight attendant was calling you she or her, so why she would want to be called a dude. Be a professional. It's not that hard.

Let's both drop it at the same time. Zero condescending comments on my side, just your interpretation. I'm a good professional, thanks for worrying, you be professional too.

PossibleDeviation 02-19-2021 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3197100)
As soon as things come back, DL is going to be begging OO to find some 550s for them to fly from DTW to IND, and OO will say something to the effect of “sorry, you didn’t renew the leases on the 700s that we were flying for you, so we placed them with another carrier, oh and there are literally 0 CRJ 700s on the planet for sale right now, sorry. We can fly a deuce on that route for you though?” And Delta will begrudgingly accept because they are maxed out on scope, their bonds are rated as junk, and they need to exploit every source of potential profit..

I tend to think this will be happening as well.. and I am very excited for that day!

Broncofan 02-20-2021 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by R0GER BALL (Post 3196401)
Kept doing what you're doing. I learned (the hard way) those whom stick around during the downturns are one day rewarded. This is your first 121 broken heart. It will not be your last.

I don’t think there has been a truer statement.


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