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Utah 04-22-2023 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 3627843)
but at the rate of hiring and captain / instructor shortage. Its not to far fetched..

That was my point. I think he's only off a little in his timing. When all of your First Officers are under 2500tt with less than 1000 part 121, and a significant portion of your Captains are under 3000-3500tt, getting here and becoming a LCA in Boise from zero time is only a few years away. 80+% of the current seniority list will move on in the next 2-3 years.

TALPAtalker 04-22-2023 04:49 PM

I'm not disagreeing with the analysis of the YT situation above, however the idea that we reduce lineholder hours in slower months does not change the fact that we still work the same number of days per month. It's just that instead of crediting 5-6 hours per day, you'll get trips that credit 4:12 per day. That distinction is important for outsiders who think there is any direct correlation between monthly credit awards and days worked. While in the past we could get away with working shorter trips, now that pretty much everything is a 3- or 4-day trip (despite base surveys which clearly portray demand for shorter trips), everyone is working about 18 days per month regardless of what their line credit is.

Utah 04-22-2023 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by TALPAtalker (Post 3627944)
I'm not disagreeing with the analysis of the YT situation above, however the idea that we reduce lineholder hours in slower months does not change the fact that we still work the same number of days per month. It's just that instead of crediting 5-6 hours per day, you'll get trips that credit 4:12 per day. That distinction is important for outsiders who think there is any direct correlation between monthly credit awards and days worked. While in the past we could get away with working shorter trips, now that pretty much everything is a 3- or 4-day trip (despite base surveys which clearly portray demand for shorter trips), everyone is working about 18 days per month regardless of what their line credit is.

Agreed. He'll typically be working way more than 14 days a month.

ryapache7 04-23-2023 06:17 PM

I’m sorry if this has already been answered, but what can a new hire expect for training timeline (ATP/CTP to starting IOE) ? Also, are there any breaks during training to go home and see family or is it pretty much straight through?

RTROAjax 04-23-2023 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by ryapache7 (Post 3628318)
I’m sorry if this has already been answered, but what can a new hire expect for training timeline (ATP/CTP to starting IOE) ? Also, are there any breaks during training to go home and see family or is it pretty much straight through?

Go to the list of threads, page 2. You'll see a thread called New Hire Training Footprint.

domino 04-23-2023 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by ryapache7 (Post 3628318)
I’m sorry if this has already been answered, but what can a new hire expect for training timeline (ATP/CTP to starting IOE) ? Also, are there any breaks during training to go home and see family or is it pretty much straight through?

ouch. Family and regional airline don’t go so well together these days. Usually have to pick one or the other.

Breaker11 04-23-2023 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by ryapache7 (Post 3628318)
I’m sorry if this has already been answered, but what can a new hire expect for training timeline (ATP/CTP to starting IOE) ? Also, are there any breaks during training to go home and see family or is it pretty much straight through?

In a perfect world… it’s 1 week of ATP/CTP in DFW. Then 1 week of INDOC in SLC 1-2 days after CTP completion. Then, if you’re CRJ, you stay at SLC for ground/sims. If you’re ERJ, you’ll go to DEN. You will have a 1 week break as of now between INDOC and ground for CBTs. At least that’s my understanding of it currently

mazerRack 04-24-2023 08:42 AM

It’s also pretty common to have 5-10 days off between procedures and sims.

Skyhawk121 04-24-2023 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by domino (Post 3628332)
ouch. Family and regional airline don’t go so well together these days. Usually have to pick one or the other.

Don't think domino is still employed at OO, did you find a new airline to be unhappy at?

three1five 04-24-2023 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by domino (Post 3628332)
ouch. Family and regional airline don’t go so well together these days. Usually have to pick one or the other.

Unsure why you would post something like this. Literally thousands of us successfully have families and regional jobs at the same time. With the current pay at regionals I’d challenge anyone to come up with a time when it was easier to ensure little ones are cared for while one parent works at a regional.


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