You can’t look at just one upgrade class.. ask a instructor to show you the email they just got about training failures. And the data year to date. Failures are down from last year. And failure rate is below 5%... I cannot remember the exact number but it was less then 5%.

I have to imagine it's from a complete lack of crm skills not necessarily flying abilities...as new hire FOs are essentially accomplishing the same training footprint with a high rate of sucesss. They aren't letting upgrades through who cannot effectively manage emerg/abnormal situations.

Exactly the point of my last two sentences.

Now that 5% failure rate- is that overall or the specific subgroup of ERJ FO to CRJ CA without previous CRJ time? I.e. the topic of this thread.

But of that 5% how many fail again. Thats super slim.... I’ve had a discussion with some training guys. It’s very apparent day 1 that they aren’t ready. For various reason. But the other 95% are over prepared, and sail through no issues.

I’ve tried asking around but don’t know any CRJ training folks, just ERJ. If you can get some gouge on this specific sub-group of ERJ-CRJ and share it, it would be valuable. Unless that 5% failure rate you mention is that sub-group. It’s not clear from your post.

I think most of us would consider even one failure a big deal regardless of re-training as moving on would be tougher.

Training events are the product of being a pilot. Get use to it.... work hard. Study harder. Every day. Not 2 weeks before upgrade...