Originally Posted by TenaciousB (Post 2901958)

Inability to ensure we are following the FOM priority for flight deck access because the gate agent software will now violate it for those particular two groups. Violating the FOM is technically an FAA enforceable violation.

*Just explaining the reasoning given by SAPA and the official letter so don’t shoot the messenger.

Originally Posted by Hawker445 (Post 2901964)

Just for clarification, does this decision by SAPA apply to ALL of our flights or just United side?

Originally Posted by HuskerAv8tor (Post 2901956)

Said the Comair pilot to Delta!

Originally Posted by pilotnicco (Post 2901926)

It's UALPA not UAL really forcing this decision.

Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 2901962)

Scott Kirby spoke in very general terms this week (at the United FTC) and stated he would like more control over the the regional product and while it will take time, consolidation into a handful of carriers might be the answer. What that means is anyone’s guess but most of the people in the room heard it as him wanting to grow the exclusive carriers and trim the others. Doesn’t mean it will happen and if MESA, SkyWest or Republic are the best performers it will be hard to justify in my opinion. Jumpseat wars are not productive. We need to support and work well with our regional carriers that support the United operation (in my opinion). It does get fuzzy when some of our regional partners get to declare jumpseat priority on multiple major airlines and their feeders but get upset when United gives exclusive UAX carriers priority on UAL (and the exclusive UAX Airlines). I got a bit of a laugh at the student council’s wording of “violation of FOM” etc and that justifying denial of jumpseats. So, it is a safety issue that you go behind exclusive UAX carriers on United Mainline jumpseats? You guys will always (obviously) have priority on your own jumpseat, not to mention you have priority over all of us on Delta and Alaska so you can use them (2 leg) to commute into your UAL hub to work with “priority “. Not a bad deal!

Originally Posted by Burt123 (Post 2901976)

I must have missed the comparison. YX/OO are not WO’s and own all their aircraft, UA doesn’t own any of them. The pilot group was decimated at Comair, DL owned the aircraft. So my question is again who would fill the void? That talk is complete nonsense.

Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2901979)

Why has Expressjet gone along with this they didn’t take a stance to protect there own Jumpseats? Whyonly SkyWest/Repubic.??

Originally Posted by TenaciousB (Post 2901981)

The way it was messaged, supposedly the jumpseat committee at UALPA wouldn’t even talk with or return calls from our jumpseat committee to discuss or negotiate this change. Basically taking the reciprocal and agreement out of “reciprocal agreement “. It was less about the final priority than the fact that we couldn’t discuss it ahead of time and negotiate. It’s hard to parse out exactly what happened but that’s what I’m personally gathering based on the communications, so take it for what it’s worth.