CN over Christmas - can anybody explain?
11-20-2019, 03:26 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by torpid0
THIS is exactly correct. I was in the dreaded CN zone for more than 10 years and this happened every Christmas.
The junior folks don't have big enough holes. Roughly around 50-15% is the danger zone. *Typically* by the time it gets back up to the top it's already assigned all the CN's but that's not an absolute, it's theoretically possible for the #1 guy to get hosed too (unless he had vacay of course).
That's how it was explained to me in detail, using layer reports.
I was also able to avoid CN's for years after that by placing trips around the 25th so CN's wouldn't be legal. YMMV.
11-20-2019, 09:15 PM
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The best trick around Christmas or Thanksgiving at OO is to bid a standup that starts the night before (ie the 23rd for Christmas). Then bid another one on the 25th. Yes, you'll be in a hotel on the nights of the 23rd and 25th, but you'll be home from Christmas Eve morning (24th) through Christmas Day evening (25th). PBS will see that you're working on both the 24th and 25th, so the odds of you being CN'd a 4 day over those days are basically nil.
Of course, this only really works if you live in base. Not such a great trick for commuters...
Of course, this only really works if you live in base. Not such a great trick for commuters...
11-21-2019, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
The best trick around Christmas or Thanksgiving at OO is to bid a standup that starts the night before (ie the 23rd for Christmas). Then bid another one on the 25th. Yes, you'll be in a hotel on the nights of the 23rd and 25th, but you'll be home from Christmas Eve morning (24th) through Christmas Day evening (25th).
Of course, this only really works if you live in base.
Of course, this only really works if you live in base.
Some senior guys who don't like standups suck it up for three or four nights a year and pull this trick, so it doesn't always work.
11-21-2019, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by herewego
Depending on your base It also only works if you're senior enough to have this trick work.
Some senior guys who don't like standups suck it up for three or four nights a year and pull this trick, so it doesn't always work.
Some senior guys who don't like standups suck it up for three or four nights a year and pull this trick, so it doesn't always work.
You have to be willing to sacrifice the rest of the month... or you could enjoy a sweet month (relative to your seniority) and just suck it up on the 25th.
11-21-2019, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RTRSKW
I was at OO for 13 years and never worked a Christmas. Guess I got lucky.
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