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TheOtherGuy25 05-05-2020 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 3049713)
It would seem to me that you weren’t in the industry during the last downturn either? As there are a couple of things wrong with your post. The Comair shutdown was not due to an economic downturn. And most ASA guys would probably say that Skywest buying ASA was worse for the company than when Delta owned it? And as far as excess capacity... who knows what that is at this point? Just speaking of the Delta side, right now it doesn’t look like they even have enough block hours for any one of their contract carriers. The reduction in passenger travel is much worse than 911 and the previous recession. I think we’re all going to feel this one for quite some time

I have no clue on what Delta will do with regional flying and they probably don't yet either, but the International seems to be planned to kick up a notch again from June/July according to this. Obviously it can change in a matter of hours and I have no doubt it will change a bit more before June/July hits, but it's nice to see some sort of improvement.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-03may20/

TheFly 07-22-2020 06:20 PM

Semi thread resurrection here. In our latest update from CC, it seems that we’re hoping for the best but preparing for less than optimal conditions. One thing for certain is, OO will be a smaller airline. How much smaller...dunno.

Hawker445 07-23-2020 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by TheFly (Post 3097370)
. How much smaller...dunno.


In the SAPA call Aric seemed stumped about this as well. Question remained who will be in that group.

domino 07-24-2020 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Hawker445 (Post 3098080)
In the SAPA call Aric seemed stumped about this as well. Question remained who will be in that group.

Why would he be stumped? Is he not looking at what is happening? Anyone with a brain doing some critical thinking can tell the short term future for airlines is bleak and no one should be surprised that most airlines will be smaller than before,

N1CEandEZ 07-24-2020 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by domino (Post 3098314)
Why would he be stumped? Is he not looking at what is happening? Anyone with a brain doing some critical thinking can tell the short term future for airlines is bleak and no one should be surprised that most airlines will be smaller than before,

I think he was referring to him being stumped about how much smaller. CC gave no specifics.

brocklee9000 07-24-2020 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by domino (Post 3098314)
no one should be surprised that most airlines will be smaller than before,

One thing is for sure. If they don't bring the snack baskets back any time soon, I think we'll all have smaller waistlines than before.

trip 07-24-2020 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by brocklee9000 (Post 3098451)
One thing is for sure. If they don't bring the snack baskets back any time soon, I think we'll all have smaller waistlines than before.

That’s a good thing right? I’ve never seen so many young pilots spilling out of their belts and blowing buttons off, seriously, get a gym pass fellas.

brocklee9000 07-24-2020 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 3098469)
That’s a good thing right? I’ve never seen so many young pilots spilling out of their belts and blowing buttons off, seriously, get a gym pass fellas.

I canceled my membership when I went to training. Between hotel gyms and riding my bike at home, I usually get enough exercise in. I was going to sign up for that plan through Delta in early march but procrastinated. A few weeks later and everything shut down, so I never got around to it. And at the rate things are going, I don't see them opening any time soon. They tried that here in Arizona and that worked for...maybe a week. State shut them down again and now they're saying indefinitely. In the grand scheme of things, its for the best (closing public places and getting rid of junk food snacks). But I miss them both.

Anyway, back to the topic. When I listened to the call recording, and then later read the brief update from CC, my impression was they just wanted to deflect. No one was stumped. They just didn't want to commit to anything. Even a tentative too-wide net of potential furlough considerations. About the best we got was "no base closures, BUT DONT QUOTE ME because it could change," and that they had considered early-outs but passed on the idea. Mostly just 45 minutes of hemming and hawing and avoiding anything of substance.

PossibleDeviation 07-24-2020 04:34 PM

Are you guys referring to yesterday's call or the call on 7/16? I don't see meeting notes or the recording uploaded yet on the SAPA site.

brocklee9000 07-24-2020 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3098599)
Are you guys referring to yesterday's call or the call on 7/16? I don't see meeting notes or the recording uploaded yet on the SAPA site.

I'm basing it off the 16th. Haven't seen or heard anything since.


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