Originally Posted by shrsailplanes

What does this say about ERJ pilots at skywest? Why are they not capable of flying the CRJ? Was it the training? Is word of this getting out to where skywest ERJ pilots are not marketable anywhere else?

Originally Posted by FLPilot3190

I honestly thoroughly enjoyed both training departments. The CRJ culture just seems to be a bit more “old-school” if you will. There are/were several notorious sim instructors who wouldn’t hesitate to yell or berate you for a simple mistake. At least one check airman comes to mind who would break you down during the KV (oral) by asking absurd questions that were totally off-script such as the length of the escape rope. The CRJ department also seemed to have more of a “you’ll do it our way” mentality when it came to technique whereas the ERJ side let you fly the airplane based on your own technique (while still conforming to SOP obviously).
The ERJ culture seemed, to me at least, more caring and friendly. If you weren’t grasping something they’d really work with you to figure out the root cause. I had no issues learning either airplane. Both departments will prepare you exceptionally well for the checkride and flying the line.

Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill

I’ve been through both, this is literally spot on. I will say, I’m getting a little tired of the “ERJ pilots can’t upgrade on the CRJ because they’re permanently lazy” BS because one ERJ FO couldn’t fly a go-around from the left seat of a CRJ.

How about that CRJ FO to CRJ CA out of SFO having go-around issues?

The company just awarded an upgrade for a bunch of ERJ FO’s. We had plenty of CRJ CA transitions that struggled through ERJ training, specifically the old timers not correctly utilizing the FMA.

Originally Posted by shrsailplanes

this doesn’t make sense. If the CRJ department prepares you well for line flying why are ERJ FO’s failing so badly as CRJ captains that they are no longer being permitted upgrade in that airplane?

Originally Posted by Blackwing

For most ERJ newhires, it’s their first jet and because the automation will do everything for you, they never build those habits that are essential to flying a jet with less automation—like watching your airspeed like a hawk and descent planning. To be fair, the ERJ has its own gotchas that one must learn to be watchful for, like VNAV trying to screw you on certain arrivals if you haven’t set it up exactly right.

Originally Posted by Blackwing

Or use a different vertical mode.

Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad

Speed mode in the CRJ will oscillate like crazy
VS mode is pretty much required on the 7 and 900 to keep it 1400fpm or less compliant at altitude
Pitch mode was my personal favorite.
You just have to make sure you monitor your speed more on the CRJ, first because it bleeds off easy and you don't have the auto-throttles to back you up and secondly, at altitude you cannot fly .67 as you can on the ERJ. The 7/900 gets really uncomfortable to fly bellow .74 at FL370

Originally Posted by Claxstarr

SPD + TURB in the climb up to 30ish and then VS to TOC is the pro status climb mode.