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Boomer 05-23-2013 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1414240)
Sure go ahead and make your straw man argument. I never said anything about ALPA national moving anything for anyone. My simple point is that all of those places where better off by having union than they would have been without one. If you think that any bk judge or any of those managements would have made it better then you are being naive.
And when did I say being non-union was the way to go? Republic and GoJet have unions. I mentioned they were growing. I was specifically talking about ALPA but you turned it into a generic union argument. You brought the straw man to the party.

727flteng 05-23-2013 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by Slats (Post 1414624)
I'd say those are good guesses with XJT being reduced out of both IAH and ORD. Small possibility you may see the 175 out of SFO, after all it's a United hub and RAH doesn't have a base that far west.
XJT is not being reduced in IAH, it is actually getting larger...

Slats 05-23-2013 07:10 PM
Originally Posted by 727flteng (Post 1414906)
XJT is not being reduced in IAH, it is actually getting larger...
Hmm, maybe most if the new bases are being staffed with aircraft out of ORD. How is IAH getting larger? Are they pulling more 135s out if the desert or re-shuffling flying?

Nevets 05-23-2013 07:21 PM
Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1414240)
Sure go ahead and make your straw man argument. I never said anything about ALPA national moving anything for anyone. My simple point is that all of those places where better off by having union than they would have been without one. If you think that any bk judge or any of those managements would have made it better then you are being naive.
And when did I say being non-union was the way to go? Republic and GoJet have unions. I mentioned they were growing. I was specifically talking about ALPA but you turned it into a generic union argument. You brought the straw man to the party.
So you are comparing non-union SAPA to the dysfunctional IBT at Gojet and RAH? Anyway, my comments are the same about ALPA regardless. The three ALPA carriers you brought up, comair, pinnacle, and XJT are all better off with ALPA than with anything else.

What union do you belong to?

Terantious 05-23-2013 08:21 PM
Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1414936)
So you are comparing non-union SAPA to the dysfunctional IBT at Gojet and RAH? Anyway, my comments are the same about ALPA regardless. The three ALPA carriers you brought up, comair, pinnacle, and XJT are all better off with ALPA than with anything else.

What union do you belong to?
How can u say that, when ALPA is all you know. ALPA can suck rocks for all I care. They did absolutely NOTHING for those at Comair. Oh wait, they did collect more money for a bogus merger fund.

Nevets 05-23-2013 08:49 PM
Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1414936)
So you are comparing non-union SAPA to the dysfunctional IBT at Gojet and RAH? Anyway, my comments are the same about ALPA regardless. The three ALPA carriers you brought up, comair, pinnacle, and XJT are all better off with ALPA than with anything else.

What union do you belong to?
How can u say that, when ALPA is all you know. ALPA can suck rocks for all I care. They did absolutely NOTHING for those at Comair. Oh wait, they did collect more money for a bogus merger fund.
How do you know what I know? I've flown at a non-union shop as well. Don't pretend to know what you don't know cause you look foolish when you do.

As for comair, just ONE example, do you honestly believe management would have given the pilots as much as a severance as they did if anything at all if it wasn't for ALPA?

Terantious 05-24-2013 01:24 AM
Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1414982)
How do you know what I know? I've flown at a non-union shop as well. Don't pretend to know what you don't know cause you look foolish when you do.

As for comair, just ONE example, do you honestly believe management would have given the pilots as much as a severance as they did if anything at all if it wasn't for ALPA?
I don't pretend to know anything and I really don't care what you know. ALPA is garbage, plain and simple.

cubbies4life 05-24-2013 03:31 AM
Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1414240)
Sure go ahead and make your straw man argument. I never said anything about ALPA national moving anything for anyone. My simple point is that all of those places where better off by having union than they would have been without one. If you think that any bk judge or any of those managements would have made it better then you are being naive.
It could be argued that the Union destroyed Pinnacle

gojo 05-24-2013 03:41 AM
Originally Posted by cubbies4life (Post 1415046)
It could be argued that the Union destroyed Pinnacle
No, P.T. And Delta did that

gojo 05-24-2013 03:44 AM
Originally Posted by Terantious (Post 1415031)
I don't pretend to know anything and I really don't care what you know. ALPA is garbage, plain and simple.
Oh great, another know it all that states an absolute with no facts to go with it.


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