Envoy- Am. Eagle loses more flying to Skywest
AAG at it again. Skywest to take over 4 city pairs out of Chicago in April MKE, YUL ,ICT and CHO that are currently operated to L-eagle. Now its gonna take around 13 yrs 8 months seniority just to hold a hard line on the EMB in Chicago. And even then all the trips are uncommutable on 1 side or the other.
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I was under the impression that Skywest was taking over some Chautauqua routes that RAH is getting rid of. Was this actually Eagle flying?
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I'm surprised the majors have made Skywest such a huge part of their feed. Exposes them to a ton of risk if Skywest ever has staffing problems.
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
(Post 1595715)
I'm surprised the majors have made Skywest such a huge part of their feed. Exposes them to a ton of risk if Skywest ever has staffing problems.
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Exposes them? Like how we're exposed at LAX flying for Delta, United AND American? This may be bad news for Envoy (two sides to every coin) but its good news for the SkyWest ORD based crews who were facing displacement on the CRJ as the E-175s come on line.
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
(Post 1595715)
I'm surprised the majors have made Skywest such a huge part of their feed. Exposes them to a ton of risk if Skywest ever has staffing problems.
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its hard to keep track
Connection/Eagle have swapped on some routes. Eagle doing more GRR, DBQ, FNT, RST while Chataqua has picked up TVC and others |
Originally Posted by rcfd13
(Post 1595734)
The only major that Skywest (Inc.) does a huge percentage of regional flying for is Delta. That's probably part of the reason they wanted to buy PNCL and have given a lot of flying to Compass. 30 planes between AA/US is nothing.
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I am sorry the guys at Envoy that are fighting not only for themselves but for all pilots at the Regional level are seeing the flying go away to other places. Some pilots can say that we as pilots have nothing to do with it and that it is only management that is to blame but I see this flying coming to us as a clear result of our pilot group voting yes for our concessionary pay package that gave our management the opportunity to be even cheaper. Our vote result was wrong when others are fighting for us. The pilot group was told from different sources that we did not have any leverage and immediately after the vote media was full of our leverage. It is sad that we as a pilot group did not understand the situation better and that we did not stand stronger but it is done and we should learn from it. Negotiations are about to start again and this time we should stand firm and demand what we have lost in years. There will be plenty of flying around as every Regional will have a hard time finding pilots and attrition is killing them.
To the Envoy guys, I am sorry. |
Originally Posted by rcfd13
(Post 1595734)
The only major that Skywest (Inc.) does a huge percentage of regional flying for is Delta. That's probably part of the reason they wanted to buy PNCL and have given a lot of flying to Compass. 30 planes between AA/US is nothing.
These routes that SkyWest will be flying for AA are some Envoy/Eagle routes and some Chautauqua. I believe EGF/CHQ both flew the ICT/MKE markets where as EGF flew YUL/CHO. It's directly related to the parking for the 140/145's by both Eagle and CHQ. OO is utilizing planes coming off contract with DL and will be operating these as pro-rate/at-risk flying. |
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