Considering, Endeavor's MEC chair walked right into the 119 Chief Pilot's chair upon completion of his term......


And for the record if ALPA were actually a union we probably wouldn't have some of today's issues.

Skywest (sapa) forum shut down!
 

That's true. ALPA is no different than CAPA (which APA, SWAPA, IPA, IBT, FAPA are member of). It's an association of independent airlines. Each MEC makes their own decisions for their pilots.

I'm ready. Have been for a while.

Can I ask why? Where did you work before SkyWest?

Seriously?




All these underhanded moves by SAPA and you have to ask?





What's it going to take to wake up this pilot group??

No joke, no matter how you felt about SAPA these latest two moves (allowing newhires to vote/canning the forums) should answer any questions about what the motives really are.

Hopefully enough can see the light, it's time.

Looks like the pre-school bash fest is back
 

Looks like the pre-school bash fest is back on-line, Enjoy.

I think it's funny that people are upset that sapa shut down the forums after repeated issues of a small group of pilots decided bullying and intimidating a fellow pilot is a reason for us to join alpa. Everyone has seen over the last few months the tone of the forums has turned into a confrontational environment. From a rep who only won (after losing his prior election) because no one else wanted to run and then posted daily with at times informative topics but than baiting with "mr lawn mower analogies" and how we should force delta, united, etc into paying us more so we could get paid more. When one pilot wanted to vote yes and explained his reason the "mob" decided to overstep the line and used intimidation to try and shame him. Yup that's a group of fellow pilots I want to share a cockpit with. Maybe not having the forums can calm some of these people down since they post what seems every moment they are not flying.

Now the fact that sapa changed the bylaws to change when a new hire could vote is very alarming and should be questioned and be held accountable for. As with other issues, the conspiracy issues and the constant hatred to anyone who might disagree is childish at best. Would voting in alpa change that? Prob not. Maybe those that are so unhappy with sapa should be more focused in LEAVING than trying to intimidate those that are comfortable for their own reasons.
I'm sure the pilots who decided to post what they posted think they did no wrong and would do it again. I'm sure anyone one of them would not appreciate it if the same was done to them. Karma has a way to coming around. Maybe that's why they are still at Skywest and haven't moved on. Hmmmmmm

Back in a truncated fully moderated compacity. Which makes it even more of a joke after all the hardcore explanations from the new prez and his homeboys

I saw that, and I made a post that simply pointed pilots to the new subreddit, and it was denied and deleted!! Tell me how that violated the TOS? They're trying so hard to control the flow of information it's not even funny! SAPA has become even more of a joke than I ever thought possible.