737 Type
 

I know the merits of buying the type have been beaten to death on this website. So I"m really only looking for suggestion on places to get the type.

It seems that Higher Power Aviation has been bought out or is not in business anymore. Can anyone recommend another place?

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Curious why you feel it's still necessary? If you've been to a job fair recently, you heard Rocky specifically state not to get the rating, save your money. Follow directions...

Just want to make sure you know that the type rating is no longer required for employment at SWA anymore.

Interesting someone with that handle wants to buy a type...

Very average resume

College Degree
6000+ total time
1500+ hours 121 PIC
not a check airmen
I don't want to wait another 3-5 years to get 8-10K hours
I personally know 2 guys with my background got calls after getting the type. Its an investment, a way for a average guy to stand out.

But thanks for all the good answers

.......this site has gone downhill for sure

One of my buddies last year thought he had no chance at SWA. Very similar resume to yours. Went to Sun Country and had an interview at SWA within three months of getting the type.

Technically I got mine at ATP in Arlington Tx, but Higher Power had just been purchased by ATP.

https://atpflightschool.com/

I highly suggest it. It will certainly make you stand out, particularly if you have the type with zero experience in the 73.

I was hired with 4600 TT and 1040 TPIC (almost all part 121).

Once hired, you will make the money back in just a few months.

Have you been to a job fair? Do you update frequently? Have you applied for leadership roles within your company/union? These are all things you can do to make yourself standout without going against the advice of the manger of pilot hiring. But if you feel that getting the type rating is your only option, then I hope it pays off. We're just trying to save you some money and point you in more effective directions.

FYI most places offering the type now only have the NG option. You’re looking at 14K.

You may look at FTI in Denver.

I just don't believe in perpetuating the PFJ mantra - especially in today's hiring market. You have good numbers, as others say find some other ways to stand out and keep updating. You'll get there.

https://crewpilottraining.com/

Heard good things from buddies about this company.

22/28 of my new hire class, less than one year ago, did not have the type. Just sayin’


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I had a great experience at Crew Pilot Training. If you’re going to get the type, I highly recommend them.

Get the type. There is no doubt it makes you stand out. You will make your investment back almost instantly.

Second CPT...it’s not comparable to flight safety in regards to facilities and training aids, but they did a great job. Great instruction. Do your part before you show up and it is a breeze.

I did it because once I made the decision to apply, I wanted things to move fast. Not sure I needed it but I wanted to stack the deck....and, it happened very fast. Applied and completed type one day after window closed, updated the app, less than 5 weeks later interviewed, 3 weeks later had the job offer. Only place I applied so I was indeed targeting just SWA. I also had the $ so I did it. If I didn’t have specific reasons for SWA, I don’t think I would have spent the money.

How long did it take to get the type? What's the time commitment at the facility?
Thanks.

I did it before the new rules kicked in a few years ago, so I’m not sure what the program looks like now, but it was 10 days back in summer 2014.

It takes 12 days. You may check a day early. Not sure what you’re asking with the second question....ground school was 2 or 3 really long days into the pm. Remember, you self study before you show up. The way we did it, to get as much exposure as possible, we rode along as the other two trainees flew to watch and learn. We had 4 in the class so we did 8 hours in the sim every single day...that was our choice. You don’t have to. But you’d feel stupid to pass on the sim and then fail....we all rode along. Did that answer your question?

Yes. Thank you.
I’m just trying to figure out if it is something I could even accomplish. Doesn’t sound like it without any vacation this year.

I had the same issue and it barely worked out....I chose CPT because they fit my schedule. I was pleased with them.

Only 3 people in my class of 28 were typed.

Looks like Airbus only

To take something from Shark Tank, I don't see "the numbers" that reflect that a type is worthwhile. If you won the PowerBall and have ample free time, OK, get it. If you are a working mope with minimal freev vacation days and may put this type on the personal AMEX card, don't think I would do that....

I think the hiring market is different. Maybe I am wrong.

4 of 28 had the type in my class. Three were military and one Sun Country. I wouldn’t do it. They say they like guys not having the type so they can train them from scratch.


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Having the type does in fact add points in the lineup, no question.

The type is not required, and yes times are changing. Two years ago, only 6 in my class did not have the type.

That being said, if all things are mostly equal but one pilot has the type, they will get an interview first.

While it may not make sense financially anymore, being hired a few months earlier can make a big financial and QOL difference down the road.

If you have outside resources to pay for the type, I would do it.

If you decide to do it, I went with FTI and they were great. They have locs in DEN, DFW, and MIA. I went to MIA as it cost less there (DFW and DEN sim scheduling is full/expensive). I did the 8 day accelerated course. CBT home study prior to showing up, all manuals, cockpit printout, ans checklists on EFB to study prior. Any questions I had they answered and then some. All my IPs were current AA or United line CAs or Instructors. Good luck.

Directly from SWA:

Q: I have just obtained a B737 Type Rating, how will Southwest evaluate that achievement?

A: Some candidates may have recently received a B737 Type Rating; we understand their commitment and recognize they may be targeting an opportunity at Southwest Airlines. That commitment will not go unrecognized. Even though the type rating is no longer required, it is still beneficial and will continue to have value in the screening process.

I wasn’t given the time of day by SW and that was with a 73 type and flying it. Year ago.
Go figure.

Okay, how many old cliches do I have to roll out about a pilot and his/her seniority? :eek:

To those who genuinely want to work here: Almost EVERY WEEK this airline is hiring more than 20 pilots who will be senior to you FOR THE REST OF YOUR CAREER!!! I'm an old, senior SOB who is probably not the best source of up-to-date info for wannabees, but if the type is still moving the needle on whether you get the call sooner than later (and from what PropCop and some others are saying, it sounds like it still is), then get the @#$$%& type....like yesterday! It's still a small expense in the grand scheme, IMHO.

At that time:

College Degree?
Leadership roles, check airman, etc ?
Turbine PIC - how much

(for our own Situational Awareness)

Attitude says a lot. Mighta been the issue??

Is this Q & A from the Southwest Community website?... or is this directly from the careers and requirements site?

From the Questions tab on swa.pilotcredentials

what are the more cost effective type schools ?

thanks

FTI usually offers seasonal deals. They offered an $8900 accelerated course for A320 & B737NG when I went with them.

Why was the type even required in the first place? The only pilots I think would have it would have either bought it or came over from another major or maybe a 135 that used 73s. Since most pilots trying to get into SWA were regionals I couldnt see them having a 73 type. But WHY did SWA want an insane number of TPIC time?

The reason why ATP/HP stopped training guys on the 737 - they were using Boeing's manuals illegally. Boeing either sued or threatened to sue = FAA pulled their certificate.

Yes type will help. No doubt about it. Applicants with type = more competitive and getting calls to interview.

Rumor is WN will reinstate the requirement for the 737 type.

I wasn’t around when this happened, but apparently many airlines used to make you pay for all of your training, so once upon a time, making guys pay to get the type wasn’t so weird. And if I had to guess, the market used to allow SWA to demand such high mins, with every other show in town furloughing, they could be as selective as they wanted. The market has changed, so they’ve adjusted. Just my best guess.

The training program for new hires also assumed you had the type.

Southwest doesn’t have a 4 year degree requirement, wouldn’t they reinstate that first to cut down the applicant pool?