Originally Posted by FlyGirl727
(Post 2552972)
How many hours do MIL pilots fly per month. If the pilot was in the service for 10 years and has 1,700 hours that works out to 170 hours per year or 14 hours a month. That's probably less than a Doctor flying his Bonanza and we all know how that ends. The MIL guys are great at PAR approaches but how about an ADF, or holding?
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Originally Posted by slimothy
(Post 2552981)
I promise you, we Mil Pilots are proficient at ADFs, Holding, raw data approaches, hand flying, raw data point to points, LOC approaches, VOR (non DME) LOC BC, etc. The philosophy is “something might fail some day, so let’s always fly as if it has failed.” I’m not bragging, it’s actually quite absurd the way we operate.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski
(Post 2552993)
What's an "ADF"? Is that some kind of super-secret stealth tech?
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Originally Posted by FlyGirl727
(Post 2552972)
How many hours do MIL pilots fly per month. If the pilot was in the service for 10 years and has 1,700 hours that works out to 170 hours per year or 14 hours a month. That's probably less than a Doctor flying his Bonanza and we all know how that ends. The MIL guys are great at PAR approaches but how about an ADF, or holding?
A fighter guy may spend 2+ hours in briefings etc to go fly one hour. Etc. Indeed some "learning curve" exists to take a guy from single pilot fighter cockpit to a glass cockpit crewed 737. But we are not talking accomplishing the impossible. MIL pilots at airlines are like the chicken and the egg. Which one came first ? Sure, the MIL pilots are highly trained, by default all have 4-year degrees (many Masters), and are flying highly complex aircraft usually, but remember that the largest Alumni network in the world is "I am ex-AF" or "I am ex Navy". The bro network is well established at all airlines, from the CP office down, and no doubt this is partially "the why" so many MIL dudes get hired. You know what ? More power to them, I "get it" - use it if you have it |
Neil Armstrong had a total of 2,400 hrs when he was selected to be an astronaut....but I'm sure the Cessna driver with 2,400 hrs is just as good. You know, the time being equal and all. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Warhawg01
(Post 2552493)
And briefs were 50 minutes, RJS. Not three hours.
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Originally Posted by FlyingHercs
(Post 2553052)
Neil Armstrong had a total of 2,400 hrs when he was selected to be an astronaut....but I'm sure the Cessna driver with 2,400 hrs is just as good. You know, the time being equal and all. :rolleyes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Armstrong#Test_pilot I did enjoy reading about the B-29 that he had to bring down on 1 of 4 engines. Sure anyone who flies a 172 on the weekend in clear weather could do just as well. :D |
Nobody’s insinuating that a civilian with 1,700 TT should get hired over a fighter jock with 1,700 TT. What I find ludicrous is that there are thousands of 10,000+ TT RJ captains with oodles of turbojet 121 PIC time that don’t have skeletons in their closet and yet can’t get an interview while someone with zero 121, crew, high density airport, CRM, etc. experience gets hired with 1,700 TT. That to me is ridiculous. Nothing you can say will change my mind.
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
(Post 2553118)
Nobody’s insinuating that a civilian with 1,700 TT should get hired over a fighter jock with 1,700 TT. What I find ludicrous is that there are thousands of 10,000+ TT RJ captains with oodles of turbojet 121 PIC time that don’t have skeletons in their closet and yet can’t get an interview while someone with zero 121, crew, high density airport, CRM, etc. experience gets hired with 1,700 TT. That to me is ridiculous. Nothing you can say will change my mind.
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Totally agree. HR sets out the hoops and the applicants decides if they want to attempt jumping through them. Doesn’t mean that those of us observing from the sidelines can’t criticize the types of hoops they set out.
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