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Originally Posted by Winston
(Post 2585988)
San Diego to the islands is going to be a little interesting as far as takeoff is concerned. SAN-HNL is further than it is to BOS and ETOPS requires quite a bit of fuel padding at the critical point. Add in a weather alternate and SWA’s single class seating and you’ve got quite a heavy little piggy trying to get airborne in SAN’s relatively short and obstacle surrounded runway.
There’s a reason all the Hawaii flights take off on the 28s in SFO. |
Originally Posted by Winston
(Post 2585988)
San Diego to the islands is going to be a little interesting as far as takeoff is concerned. SAN-HNL is further than it is to BOS and ETOPS requires quite a bit of fuel padding at the critical point. Add in a weather alternate and SWA’s single class seating and you’ve got quite a heavy little piggy trying to get airborne in SAN’s relatively short and obstacle surrounded runway.
There’s a reason all the Hawaii flights take off on the 28s in SFO. |
Originally Posted by capt707
(Post 2586014)
Doesn't Alaska already have a bunch of flights from SAN to Hawaii? Don't think they have any issues with their 737s?!
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Originally Posted by Winston
(Post 2585988)
San Diego to the islands is going to be a little interesting as far as takeoff is concerned. SAN-HNL is further than it is to BOS and ETOPS requires quite a bit of fuel padding at the critical point. Add in a weather alternate and SWA’s single class seating and you’ve got quite a heavy little piggy trying to get airborne in SAN’s relatively short and obstacle surrounded runway.
There’s a reason all the Hawaii flights take off on the 28s in SFO. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2586025)
British Airways launches a 74 to LHR out of SAN, I'm sure SWA can make it work with a 73 to HI.
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It will be in the Ocho, which does fine in SAN. I have never had a weight issue out of there. People tend to think of the runway as being short, not really sure why. It’s 9400 feet long which is an eternity in the 800.
Not saying there won’t be any issues at all, I just don’t think it is going to be a problem on a regular basis. |
Originally Posted by Winston
(Post 2585988)
San Diego to the islands is going to be a little interesting as far as takeoff is concerned. SAN-HNL is further than it is to BOS and ETOPS requires quite a bit of fuel padding at the critical point. Add in a weather alternate and SWA’s single class seating and you’ve got quite a heavy little piggy trying to get airborne in SAN’s relatively short and obstacle surrounded runway.
There’s a reason all the Hawaii flights take off on the 28s in SFO. |
More to come....
WN has only about 30 -800s ETOPS ready.
No MAXs, anywhere, are ETOPS ready. Not sure when they will be delivered. Wait and see. They will be integrated eventually. Seeing as LIH is 6500' and OGG is 7000' and warmer than SAN, it shouldn't be too much of a problem. Yield won't be stellar, but it's not about CA-HI specifically as it is the CA market as a whole. They all go to HI for a weekend. :D |
Originally Posted by Winston
(Post 2586038)
Isn’t that the one that stops in PHX for gas because it can’t takeoff fully loaded?
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Originally Posted by THEKERNALKLINK
(Post 2570250)
If your base of operations is out of a State, YOU PAY TAXES TO THE STATE THAT BASE IS IN.... I was ****ed when IL hiked up their rate, but it's still close to 1/3 of what CA is.
I mean we would all be claiming TX or NV residency if we could get away with it, but it's illegal! |
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