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Tango86 05-10-2018 05:01 PM

Feedback on FTI and K and S
 
Can anyone who used FTI or K and S Aviation for the type give some feedback on their experience? If you considered both, can you share why you went with one over the other?


Tango86

at6d 05-11-2018 09:38 AM

I used FTI back in 2015. They still had classic sims in Denver at the United facility at the time.

I used them for the short duration of the course and for the price. Now that the classics are gone, I heard the price jumped a lot.

It’s a fire hose of information in 7 days but I enjoyed the training.

Good results.

cantankerous 08-13-2020 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 2591645)
I used FTI back in 2015. They still had classic sims in Denver at the United facility at the time.

I used them for the short duration of the course and for the price. Now that the classics are gone, I heard the price jumped a lot.

It’s a fire hose of information in 7 days but I enjoyed the training.

Good results.

I didn't want to start a new thread so I found this via the search. It seems like FTI is very GI Bill friendly. I'm looking at doing the 737NG in Denver or Miami. Anyone have any recent experience with FTI?

MudhammedCJ 08-13-2020 04:01 PM

Why? Find something else to spend the money on. Really.

barabek 08-13-2020 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ (Post 3109687)
Why? Find something else to spend the money on. Really.

Exactly, why would you blow money on something you don't need. Nobody will be hiring any time soon anyways.

cantankerous 08-13-2020 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ (Post 3109687)
Why? Find something else to spend the money on. Really.


Originally Posted by barabek (Post 3109692)
Exactly, why would you blow money on something you don't need. Nobody will be hiring any time soon anyways.

I appreciate both of your concern. Both K&S and FTI are GI Bill approved and that is what I'll be using, so it's no cost to me. I want to do it, for me and that's pretty much it. I was just looking for recent feedback on both schools.

barabek 08-13-2020 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by cantankerous (Post 3109696)
I appreciate both of your concern. Both K&S and FTI are GI Bill approved and that is what I'll be using, so it's no cost to me. I want to do it, for me and that's pretty much it. I was just looking for recent feedback on both schools.

Disregard my comment then, good luck!

at6d 08-14-2020 01:04 AM

FTI as of five years ago was still home study followed by 121-style sim training events. You had to be paired with someone to get on the schedule, so availability may be an issue?

Probably worth a phone call to find out for sure.

Tenacvols 08-14-2020 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by cantankerous (Post 3109696)
I appreciate both of your concern. Both K&S and FTI are GI Bill approved and that is what I'll be using, so it's no cost to me. I want to do it, for me and that's pretty much it. I was just looking for recent feedback on both schools.

Except there is a cost to you, an opportunity cost. Not sure of your particular situation but I transferred my Post 9/11 GI Bill to my kids. It will pay out more than what that 737 type will cost. Just the BAH portion alone is $54K (36 months at $1500 per month, could be more depending on where the school is located). You are giving up a lot of money using it on a 8-10K type rating. If you’re single and can’t transfer it use it to get your Masters. That’s a great back up plan to have in todays environment and the BAH you’ll get every month is icing on the cake. Just food for thought, the type rating is not needed to get on here with Southwest and I’d almost argue that having a masters degree looks better and will definitely open up more doors outside of flying.

cantankerous 08-14-2020 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3109816)
FTI as of five years ago was still home study followed by 121-style sim training events. You had to be paired with someone to get on the schedule, so availability may be an issue?

Probably worth a phone call to find out for sure.

It's the same 32 hours of home CBT's 8 hours in person ground followed by 8 days of sims. Either DEN or MIA is available and they said they would be able to pair me no issues! I found this thread on google search and you had the most recent reply to the topic. Were you happy with the training? How was it?


Originally Posted by Tenacvols (Post 3109822)
Except there is a cost to you, an opportunity cost. Not sure of your particular situation but I transferred my Post 9/11 GI Bill to my kids. It will pay out more than what that 737 type will cost. Just the BAH portion alone is $54K (36 months at $1500 per month, could be more depending on where the school is located). You are giving up a lot of money using it on a 8-10K type rating. If you’re single and can’t transfer it use it to get your Masters. That’s a great back up plan to have in todays environment and the BAH you’ll get every month is icing on the cake. Just food for thought, the type rating is not needed to get on here with Southwest and I’d almost argue that having a masters degree looks better and will definitely open up more doors outside of flying.

I'm currently a military pilot with some time to go yet, masters degree and I'm not transferring my GI Bill. I'm not looking a SWA specifically I need to get and ATP practical done eventually anyway so I want to do it this way. I found this thread via search and it was the most recent. I figured I reply here than start a new one.


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