Southwest Travel Benefits
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Posts: 331
Hey 4th, don’t you remember? EVERY seat on SWA is in First Class!!! If the single class cabin is full, and you can not utilize the jumpseat, you aren’t going. There aren’t any other seats. Except the lav, of course.
#13
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 14
Forget about the industry standard practice of being able to list for First or Biz - coach is the only option. If coach is full but premium seats remain, don't count on getting on.
And spare me the "bring a box of chocolates" nonsense - we shouldn't have to grovel.
Easily the worst OA pass agreements in the industry.
And spare me the "bring a box of chocolates" nonsense - we shouldn't have to grovel.
Easily the worst OA pass agreements in the industry.
wtf is this guy talking about?
#15
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 24
#17
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 80
The fact that you don't have any idea what I'm talking about only confirms the problem.
So many here have no/little knowledge of the way the rest of the airlines work, or what is industry standard.
Yes, I'm referring to ZED (not Id90 - not for a long time). Most carriers allow ZED listings from other airline employees in F, J or Y (first, biz and coach). But here at good ol' SWA, the Pass Dept fails to see the need to even ask for this type of agreement, instead telling me to "bring some chocolates for the crew" if I want a chance at something other than coach for 12 hours.
How about just negotiating the agreement to allow us to list for Biz (or F), so we don't have to beg?
So many here have no/little knowledge of the way the rest of the airlines work, or what is industry standard.
Yes, I'm referring to ZED (not Id90 - not for a long time). Most carriers allow ZED listings from other airline employees in F, J or Y (first, biz and coach). But here at good ol' SWA, the Pass Dept fails to see the need to even ask for this type of agreement, instead telling me to "bring some chocolates for the crew" if I want a chance at something other than coach for 12 hours.
How about just negotiating the agreement to allow us to list for Biz (or F), so we don't have to beg?
Last edited by 4thLevel; 09-11-2018 at 03:08 PM.
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: 757/767
Posts: 128
How about just negotiating the agreement to allow us to list for Biz (or F), so we don't have to beg?[/QUOTE]
I’m not working for SWA but I think the problem is that the company can only get agreements for the class they offer themselves. So if you don’t have a business or first class, you don’t get an agreement with anybody else. That’s only hearsay, so I stand to be corrected.
I’m not working for SWA but I think the problem is that the company can only get agreements for the class they offer themselves. So if you don’t have a business or first class, you don’t get an agreement with anybody else. That’s only hearsay, so I stand to be corrected.
#19
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,452
That’s the way it was explained to me when I asked about it. No reciprocal premium seating.
In any case, is it really worth it for the .1 percent of the time when an open first or biz seat exists and the crew doesn’t upgrade you anyway just for being staff?
In any case, is it really worth it for the .1 percent of the time when an open first or biz seat exists and the crew doesn’t upgrade you anyway just for being staff?
#20
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 64
Ehh.. ran into this problem on Hawaiian. They will leave your ass if no coach seats are available. Even if all of first class is open. Flight attendants have no power to move you.
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