RJSAviator76

According to this, not until 2022...

https://leehamnews.com/2018/03/01/so...ecoming-737-7/

And according to this, 40 -700's to be retired then...

https://leehamnews.com/2018/04/30/so...0-retirements/

But then again, it could be fake news.

BarrySeal

SWA may be "letting Frontier learn" first then SWA will enter, post-somebody else's lessons in blood

Any 2020 hiring crystal ball predictions ? less/same/more/stopped ?

WHACKMASTER

What’s everyone’s opinion on a possible large aircraft order being hidden/secret at the present time? Comparing the orders we have on the books and the hiring they’ve been doing, things just don’t add up to me.

Is it possible to have an order with a manufacturer kept secret until the airline is ready to reveal their strategy? It’s been said that SWA doesn’t believe in revealing its hand.

WHACKMASTER

Also, regarding the C-Series (now A-220).....DLA & JBA got theirs at an absolutely screaming deal. Considering that we have 500 -700s to replace and our deal on them for that many airframes would be even more screaming, and considering the incredible economics and efficiency of that airframe, why would we not approach Bombardier about purchasing 500 of the A220-300s for an absurdly low price?!

full of luv

Well now you'd have to approach Airbus as they own 51% of the program.


I'm sure Airbus would LOVE to see SWA become a customer.

If that's the direction SWA would go, I'm sure Boeing would love to sell them some Brazilian RJ's instead.

ZapBrannigan

Boy I’d love to see that A220. It’s a truly passenger and crew friendly airplane. Delta takes delivery of their first one next month. but I don’t think we have the vision to look beyond the 737.

As far as a large or widebody? I bet a steak dinner we won’t see one in the next decade.

If Boeing decides to restart the 767 line or the new middle market aircraft is uniquely suited to our operation then a very hesitant maybe, otherwise I just don’t see it.


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WHACKMASTER

Yeah, I agree about the A-220. What a fantastic airplane. I’d love to see a massive order announced to replace our -700s. It’s got stellar economics and supposedly is a joy to fly. Can you imagine the pricing power we’d have ordering hundreds of them?

As for the MoM/797 from Boeing I do think we’ll get those....eventually.

Proximity

Manufactures need to announce orders to keep their investors happy. Sometimes orders are confidential, but not on the scale SWA needs to replace the 700s.



You have to wonder what will happen to the 700 fleet, as nine 7MAX aircraft aren't going to replace what our 500 737-700s aircraft do today. I'm going to assume the only reason we are ordering the 7MAX is to serve say Denver-Honolulu. Other then that it seems the company is very interested in up-gauging. If they want the majority of the fleet to be 8MAX size airplanes they could keep taking new 8MAX while operating our newer NG 700s for a long time.



I'm going to go along with WHACK and say that eventually we will order a MoM/797 aircraft. Neither the 787 nor the A330-800neo make sense in our operation. We don't need a BWI-HKG aircraft, we need BWI-Hawaii, or BWI-LAX with 250 pax. However, if you are a thinking of coming here, assume you will always fly the 737. Even if we do start flying another type it will be a small part of the operation.

RJSAviator76

We ain't getting any other type. Imagine what the market reaction would be to Gary introducing another aircraft type after the fiasco yesterday "unit cost ex-items will be up at least 3%." Our stock would go to $5/share, and not because it split 10 times.

Forget about any new type and get comfortable in the MAX.

ZapBrannigan

I was mistaken. Delta takes delivery of their first A220 Guppy Killer today in Montreal.


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