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ESQ702 08-13-2019 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by aryyo (Post 2869871)
https://careers.southwestair.com/D225Cadet
I’m not sure if the timeline is misleading. It makes it sound like you can fly corporate with one of the partners straight out of flight school with very low time. I don’t mind flying a challenger or a citation and bypass the CFI route but it sounds too good to be true.
It specifically says “decide on flight experience pathway: CFI or Corporate”.
CFI and THEN corporate would sound more realistic.

Agreed. I think insurance requirements alone will force the typical CFI -> Corporate path for anyone going this way but I’m not 100%...

Swingline78 08-14-2019 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by WhaleSurfing (Post 2869746)
Wow, that was clever. And I'm nowhere close to 65. Just little more, make that a lot, more mature than you. Poster child of the magenta. Now run along young man and follow that flight director to wherever it takes you.

I will actually. Because I know how it works. I don't blame the tools. I blame the crotchety fat man who can't use them. The biggest danger to a commercial flight isn't automation. Its the risk you put into the system by thinking you're smarter than everyone else. People are the risk. If you don't understand that then it's retirement time. Seriously.

WhaleSurfing 08-14-2019 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Swingline78 (Post 2869948)
I will actually. Because I know how it works. I don't blame the tools. I blame the crotchety fat man who can't use them. The biggest danger to a commercial flight isn't automation. Its the risk you put into the system by thinking you're smarter than everyone else. People are the risk. If you don't understand that then it's retirement time. Seriously.

Thanks for the flying lesson. You seriously need to do more homework. Come back when you’re a little wiser. Garbage in, garbage out isn’t always the issue. If you haven’t learned that by now then you are very naive. Perhaps your age isn’t really the issue.

Packrat 08-14-2019 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by RJ4LIFE (Post 2863923)
But my point was not to criticize Swift or XO, it was to question how many pilots will be willing to go to these carriers through this 225 program when they otherwise wouldn't have, with no guarantee of even getting an interview at SWA.

You have a point, but do you realize the difference in working life between an XOJet and a regional?

Working out of a nice FBO, NO TSA, no airport bus terminals. Good catering, layovers in places like Aspen instead of Buffalo. Its night and day.

Of course you have to deal with the Biebers of the world smoking dope in your jet, but its better than the average regional customer.

Packrat 08-14-2019 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2869613)
Who the hell wants to fly past 65?!

You might be surprised. People who love it.

Packrat 08-14-2019 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by WhaleSurfing (Post 2869877)
...was problematic in our current structure of SS benefits and Medicare.

That's an interesting comment. I wonder if a lot of airline managers would prefer Medicare covered employees to lower their direct insurance costs. Now, that's food for thought.

WhaleSurfing 08-14-2019 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Swingline78 (Post 2869948)
I will actually. Because I know how it works. I don't blame the tools. I blame the crotchety fat man who can't use them. The biggest danger to a commercial flight isn't automation. Its the risk you put into the system by thinking you're smarter than everyone else. People are the risk. If you don't understand that then it's retirement time. Seriously.

Do you fly a 737? Fly the Max? Tell me how that automation worked out. 346 dead and so far $4.6B in losses. How's that for automation?

gipple 08-14-2019 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by WhaleSurfing (Post 2869554)
I guess you’ll just ignore the fact that it was pure age discrimination and had been fought in the courts for decades. So you’re saying that the law should have been geared to the economy or your personal situation?

Is age discrimination also in play for those younger than 23 to hold an ATP? It’s always been about fairness, right?

symbian simian 08-14-2019 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by WhaleSurfing (Post 2870117)
Do you fly a 737? Fly the Max. Tell me how that automation worked out. 346 dead and so far $4.6B in losses. How's that for automation?

Ouch, can feel the burn from here.

symbian simian 08-14-2019 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2870102)
You have a point, but do you realize the difference in working life between an XOJet and a regional?

Working out of a nice FBO, NO TSA, no airport bus terminals. Good catering, layovers in places like Aspen instead of Buffalo. Its night and day.

Of course you have to deal with the Biebers of the world smoking dope in your jet, but its better than the average regional customer.

+ hotel points and airline miles...


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