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docav8tor 11-09-2019 05:17 AM

SWAPA early open
 
Is it true SWAPA has notified management of their intent to reopen formal contract negotiations six months early (March 2020)?

Smooth at FL450 11-09-2019 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by docav8tor (Post 2920705)
Is it true SWAPA has notified management of their intent to reopen formal contract negotiations six months early (March 2020)?

Yes. SWAPA also invited the company to meet in January for a sneak peak at the completely re-written contract proposal, to which the company accepted.

Sounds to me the company realizes how much they need the pilots’ help to restore public confidence in the Max...

Proximity 11-09-2019 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 2920708)
Yes. SWAPA also invited the company to meet in January for a sneak peak at the completely re-written contract proposal, to which the company accepted.

Sounds to me the company realizes how much they need the pilots’ help to restore public confidence in the Max...

Let's put this in context however...you don't call an alcoholic cured just because they had one sober day. Southwest has had poor labor relations for quite some time now, it will take months...more like years to see if they've changed their approach to labor.

WHACKMASTER 11-09-2019 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 2920708)
Yes. SWAPA also invited the company to meet in January for a sneak peak at the completely re-written contract proposal, to which the company accepted.

Sounds to me the company realizes how much they need the pilots’ help to restore public confidence in the Max...

Bahahahaha. I applaud your optimism, but let’s face it, one they don’t need us THAT bad and two we’ll pi$$ away the leverage that we do have.

Settle in for five years of negotiations, especially with a complete rewrite. That’s fine, but this contract better be knocked out of the park as it’s hard to imagine that airline pilots will have a better negotiating environment than the one we’re setting up for.

P.S. I will strike...

Tenacvols 11-09-2019 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2920726)

P.S. I will strike...

We won’t get released.....

fixemflyem 11-09-2019 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Tenacvols (Post 2920826)
We won’t get released.....

It doesn't matter if you get released or not. That's outside of your control. What's in your control is the willingness to do it. And that's the important part.

ZapBrannigan 11-09-2019 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Tenacvols (Post 2920826)
We won’t get released.....


Irrelevant. If you aren’t willing to Telegraph your WILLINGNESS to strike, you’re working against the union


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MudhammedCJ 11-09-2019 10:28 AM

It's this dumb assed mentality that allows management to win.

Rolf 11-09-2019 05:11 PM

If we are at a standstill, we will. Whack, I’ll stand next to you. But not awkwardly close.

Excargodog 11-09-2019 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Tenacvols (Post 2920826)
We won’t get released.....

Mmmm... May be a more labor friendly administration, or with Spirit and Frontier and JetBlue and Moxy the NMB might just say, ‘well why the h€|| not?”


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