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Old 09-21-2020 | 08:30 PM
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Pro: No additional penalty for making a poor decision.
Con: Pilfering your retirement accounts for something you probably don't really need anyhow.
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Old 09-21-2020 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Right, and at this point, do you think the market is a smoking deal, at the right levels, or is it way too high? Personally, I think it's way too high and due for a contraction that's in line with the economic reality.
Sir John Templeton said a bull market is built on climbing a wall of worry. This is a perfect example. People on the sidelines who eventually will get into the market, propelling it up. I’m not the expert, he was.
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Old 09-25-2020 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Salukidawg
I don’t usually react to noise and turbulence in the markets, but this morning I finally had my Sell Mortimer Sell moment. I’m out and sitting in cash at least through the election and possibly all the way to the inauguration at this point. Just too many outside forces acting on the market and I just can’t justify letting it ride this time. Even if we get a quick SnapBack, I’m alright with just sitting on the sidelines for a little while and see where this all goes.
and a day like today is a reason why very, very few can outperform the market by timing it based on gut feeling. Neighbor pilot was convinced in Mid March that the S&P would hit 1,100 and went to all cash. It’s now 3,300. He’s now borderline suicidal as he’s said he could nearly retire if he just kept to his long term buy, hold, and readjust thesis ala Warren Buffett who he is a huge fan of. He said it just didn’t make sense and panicked. “IF” the market drops 10-15% and your time horizon is at least 10 years, then be glad you can buy more at lower levels. If you go all cash now and the market slowly moves up over the next few years never dropping more than a couple percent, then what? Get back in based on gut feeling. That’s a way to lose.
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Old 09-25-2020 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Fredturbo
and a day like today is a reason why very, very few can outperform the market by timing it based on gut feeling. Neighbor pilot was convinced in Mid March that the S&P would hit 1,100 and went to all cash. It’s now 3,300. He’s now borderline suicidal as he’s said he could nearly retire if he just kept to his long term buy, hold, and readjust thesis ala Warren Buffett who he is a huge fan of. He said it just didn’t make sense and panicked. “IF” the market drops 10-15% and your time horizon is at least 10 years, then be glad you can buy more at lower levels. If you go all cash now and the market slowly moves up over the next few years never dropping more than a couple percent, then what? Get back in based on gut feeling. That’s a way to lose.
I agree with you. I slept on it and put about 80% back in and held 20% in cash. Playing the long game is always the wise thing to do. Just took a little risk off the table though.
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Old 09-26-2020 | 09:15 AM
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I can’t believe the email that the company just put out!!! Maybe we should go with the concession they are offering or some of us are going to be screwed! At least they were able to put together a video with a good explanation on it.

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
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Old 09-26-2020 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
I can’t believe the email that the company just put out!!! Maybe we should go with the concession they are offering or some of us are going to be screwed! At least they were able to put together a video with a good explanation on it.

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
Add SWA to the list of forums you're failing in.

That Rick Rolled thing might have been funny....30 years ago.
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Old 09-26-2020 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by HulkaBurger
Add SWA to the list of forums you're failing in.
I like how you keep following me everywhere I go... kinda funny.

Kinda like an overzealous mall cop following a suspicious person all around the mall.
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Old 09-26-2020 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Fredturbo
and a day like today is a reason why very, very few can outperform the market by timing it based on gut feeling. Neighbor pilot was convinced in Mid March that the S&P would hit 1,100 and went to all cash. It’s now 3,300. He’s now borderline suicidal as he’s said he could nearly retire if he just kept to his long term buy, hold, and readjust thesis ala Warren Buffett who he is a huge fan of. He said it just didn’t make sense and panicked. “IF” the market drops 10-15% and your time horizon is at least 10 years, then be glad you can buy more at lower levels. If you go all cash now and the market slowly moves up over the next few years never dropping more than a couple percent, then what? Get back in based on gut feeling. That’s a way to lose.
I have never understood the idea of someone, who is 20+ years from retirement, wanting their 401k and the market to continue to increase without corrections. You are investing "X" in every paycheck, and not selling it for 20+ years. Why would you want the price of the stock to continue to rise, lowering your buying power, resulting in less shares to sell when you are ready to retire. Dollar cost averaging is what makes long term investing so beneficial, buy the highs, buy the lows, jut keep buying.
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Old 09-26-2020 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
I have never understood the idea of someone, who is 20+ years from retirement, wanting their 401k and the market to continue to increase without corrections. You are investing "X" in every paycheck, and not selling it for 20+ years. Why would you want the price of the stock to continue to rise, lowering your buying power, resulting in less shares to sell when you are ready to retire. Dollar cost averaging is what makes long term investing so beneficial, buy the highs, buy the lows, jut keep buying.
Thats what I do. Mostly because I’m too stupid to try and time the market or play the PCRA game. I just put it all in one of the age based index funds and leave it alone. Prob could do better if I let someone else manage it but I’ve got 26 yrs to go...
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Old 09-26-2020 | 05:19 PM
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^^^^^^winning^^^^^^
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