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ROFF 10-05-2020 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by barabek (Post 3140833)
Sorry man, totally missed your sarcasm. It's 2020 after all, everything is upside down. I stopped reading the SWAPA.forums a while ago. Maybe I should peek in there to enlighten myself with the wisdom of the experts. I probably should visit a liquor store first and get a big bottle of bourbon to help me digest those pages...

Agree 100%

You’re going to need a big bottle.

Seneca Pilot 10-05-2020 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by barabek (Post 3140833)
Sorry man, totally missed your sarcasm. It's 2020 after all, everything is upside down. I stopped reading the SWAPA.forums a while ago. Maybe I should peek in there to enlighten myself with the wisdom of the experts. I probably should visit a liquor store first and get a big bottle of bourbon to help me digest those pages...


Might I suggest Country Gentleman. Bottle is plastic so when you get ****ed and throw it at the wall it won't do any damage.

Gone Flying 10-05-2020 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by ROFF (Post 3140661)
AMEN!! Tell it like it is brother!

Having my wife and kids read these and the SWAPA forums too so IF the time even comes they will be supportive of my NO vote. Hell, they’ll even wear “Full Pay till the Last Day” stuff (if they aren’t wearing MAGA that is) when I’m in the unemployment line. They will totally understand when we have to sell the house.

FPTTLD!!!

I saw you are just joking, but this logic would blend right in on the DL sub forum.

TransWorld 10-05-2020 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Labatt (Post 3140567)
And if you are at the Hyatt Place he is also the van diver, desk clerk and security guard!

If the Executive Chef is the Van driver, better hope he doesn’t hit any stoplights. Otherwise the three minute egg will end up being a 10 minute blackened over easy.

at6d 10-05-2020 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3140853)
Might I suggest Country Gentleman. Bottle is plastic so when you get ****ed and throw it at the wall it won't do any damage.

That actually made me laugh.

And you don’t need to go to the SWAPA forums. It’s the usual circus with the usual monkeys.

What are we thinking now with furlough seniority? Still 30%?

Stitches 10-06-2020 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by barabek (Post 3140702)
So let me understand correctly, GK is giving up his entire paycheck till the end of 2021.

Nope, just his base salary. He said nothing about stock plan/performance bonus etc. Most CEO’s prefer a low salary with high stock compensation because it’s taxed at the lower capital gains rates. He’s likely drooling at the thought of getting millions in swa stock at a huge discount to what it will be at in 2-3 years.

Macjet 10-06-2020 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot (Post 3140251)
I like your optimism. Remember we don’t have to get to net zero to save jobs. We just have to get somewhere that doesn’t burn $17 mil a day. We need a PSP and a vaccine, oh and the media to shut up about it. I’m not sure how much revenue new cities bring.

47 consecutive years of profitability (congrats too by the way, that's nothing less than a miracle in aviation) and you want the taxpayer to bail you out? The self centeredness of the top 5% income earners on this forum is astonishing. I can now understand how some men took positions in the life boats of the Titanic letting women and children die in their stead. This sentiment isn't limited to you or Southwest but is applicable across our entire industry, my airline included. You should have your financial house in order and so should your company. I'm disgusted by the idea of the taxpayer being used as a backstop to protect our McMansions, twin screw yachts, and whatever the current generation Corvette, not Miata, is. The cheese moved in 2001, 2008, and it's moved again.

Seneca Pilot 10-06-2020 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 3140965)
47 consecutive years of profitability (congrats too by the way, that's nothing less than a miracle in aviation) and you want the taxpayer to bail you out? The self centeredness of the top 5% income earners on this forum is astonishing. I can now understand how some men took positions in the life boats of the Titanic letting women and children die in their stead. This sentiment isn't limited to you or Southwest but is applicable across our entire industry, my airline included. You should have your financial house in order and so should your company. I'm disgusted by the idea of the taxpayer being used as a backstop to protect our McMansions, twin screw yachts, and whatever the current generation Corvette, not Miata, is. The cheese moved in 2001, 2008, and it's moved again.


Can't disagree with you.

I lost my job, found another and am happier for it. To hear some of the people on this forum you'd think they cut off your arms and legs along with the furlough notice. Hey lets tear up our contract as long as we keep a meager portion of our paycheck and QOL.

MudhammedCJ 10-06-2020 06:28 AM

No consessions. We already gave. What's the average line value? What was it last year? Two years ago? Three? Consessions won't keep a furlough from happening. Only traffic will. GK says he doesn't have time for long negotiations? He sure did when it was our contract. Pull up your big girl panties and don't fall for this. He's double posturing - against Congress... and the weak sisters.

WHACKMASTER 10-06-2020 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ (Post 3141008)
No consessions. We already gave. What's the average line value? What was it last year? Two years ago? Three? Consessions won't keep a furlough from happening. Only traffic will. GK says he doesn't have time for long negotiations? He sure did when it was our contract. Pull up your big girl panties and don't fall for this. He's double posturing - against Congress... and the weak sisters.

BINGO. What he said is spot on. I gotta laugh when he says he needs “timely cost saving measures”. YHGTBFSM, Gary. What comes around goes around.

There is ZERO reason to entertain concessions when ultimately it will not stave off furloughs and will only set the starting bar lower if we ever end up in bankruptcy court. Have we not learned our lessons from the past for crying out loud?

He IS double posturing indeed. I fully recognize that we are still very firmly not out of the woods but concessions aren’t gonna do much to help with that and will be a b!tc7 to claw back after we come out the other side.


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