Chicago O’Hare, Colorado Springs routes
11-02-2020, 10:23 AM
#31
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
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Originally Posted by acecrackshot
An airline pilot is more often than not an aviator, who is a political paleo-Conservative while being a labor Trotskyite.
Im not extreme right, but I’m totally free market (although our industry lacks much in that area) and would not work in a non-union house seeing how non-union pilots are treated. I don’t think every industry needs unions, but that’s their decision.
11-02-2020, 11:03 AM
#32
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,659
I agree Grumpy. Our profession endures many economic cycles, weather events, mechanical mishaps, contract negotiations, medical limitations, chemical and radiation exposure, and personal liabilities that extend beyond our workday, (and often beyond our control) and span our entire aviation careers from day one.
Legal representation and contract negotiations are enough for me to support our airline unions and therefore our pilots.
I came here for stability and domicile, and have been able to drive to base. Now we are seeing displacements, pay cuts, and talk of furlough.
I have 20 years left and am about to start year 6. Starting over would be very difficult, but not impossible.
I was a Lost Decade regional guy, and this isn’t my first goat rope. Management isn’t going to pull a fast one on me.
SWA needs to be a team player here, or those possibly furloughed next year likely will not come back.
Legal representation and contract negotiations are enough for me to support our airline unions and therefore our pilots.
I came here for stability and domicile, and have been able to drive to base. Now we are seeing displacements, pay cuts, and talk of furlough.
I have 20 years left and am about to start year 6. Starting over would be very difficult, but not impossible.
I was a Lost Decade regional guy, and this isn’t my first goat rope. Management isn’t going to pull a fast one on me.
SWA needs to be a team player here, or those possibly furloughed next year likely will not come back.
11-02-2020, 11:58 AM
#33
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,423
Originally Posted by Squallrider
I agree, I think if we furlough especially but even if we don’t some of the newer arrivals will be looking elsewhere when everything bounces back. I mean if you’re in the bottom idk 2500 you’ve been here 3 years, at least 7 more to upgrade. Delta for instance had 2 year upgrades before this, now they will come back smaller but they have something like 6500 retirements over next 8 years, more than half the group. No hiring will be happening here or there for a while but you can see where movement will happen. Many came here for job security despite lower pay, if job security decreases (even tho obviously this situation isn’t the company fault) people will look to move on
11-02-2020, 12:07 PM
#34
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,544
Originally Posted by acecrackshot
Moving on is pretty high stakes gamble. The better answer is holding your company’s feet to the fire.
If you’re in your 40s, moving on makes even less sense. Even on the FO scale, the advantage of being on the top end of the pay scale Vice the hit you will take on first year pay is significant.
If you’re in your 40s, moving on makes even less sense. Even on the FO scale, the advantage of being on the top end of the pay scale Vice the hit you will take on first year pay is significant.
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