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ZapBrannigan 08-17-2021 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3280882)
Plan on 10 years. Hope for less.


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hercretired 08-17-2021 03:01 PM

wow. thank you for the info

RJSAviator76 08-17-2021 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3280883)
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It’s just numbers for new hires. But you my friend, are still gonna be on the hook for some fine BBQ.

Caveman 08-17-2021 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3280855)
It’s a hard decision. Here at SWA they are talking between 1000 and 1800 newhires for 2021. It comes with the covid disclaimer though, and right now that trend seems negative.

Did you mean 2022 by chance?

at6d 08-17-2021 03:24 PM

Yep sorry. That’s what I meant.

Proximity 08-18-2021 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3280879)
I know an entire other thread is dedicated to this, but for a Pilot hired at SWA this year, how long would the upgrade be?

(Frontier is reported to be 3 years)

Why do you want to upgrade? If it's to make money, looking at raw upgrade time is a mistake.

symbian simian 08-20-2021 12:40 AM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3280848)
Cant happen soon enough. Just got bumped off two flights cause the 50 seater was weight limited.

well, if that’s you on the scooter I can understand why…..

symbian simian 08-20-2021 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3280884)
wow. thank you for the info

Average age of newhire, around 35, so average career 30 years. Two seats so 50% FO, 50% Cap. Early outs, higher vacay/sick times for senior pilots, LCA, 2% growth: count on 12 years. Want to be senior (and miserable)? AA average pilot age is probably around 57, and NB PIC is junior (for a reason) to WB FO.

if having 4stripes is the only thing you care about, don’t go to SWA. I didn’t, but that’s because they didn’t invite me. I’m happy at NK, and F9 is pretty much the same thing, but it’s not the big 4. How many people leave SWA for NK/G4/F9?

Crockrocket95 08-20-2021 11:00 AM

Honestly, and this isn't a knock on G4,f9 or NK, but I know of zero people who have gone from SWA to one of those. If they did, they never told anyone.

DownAndDirty 08-20-2021 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3282153)
Average age of newhire, around 35, so average career 30 years. Two seats so 50% FO, 50% Cap. Early outs, higher vacay/sick times for senior pilots, LCA, 2% growth: count on 12 years. Want to be senior (and miserable)? AA average pilot age is probably around 57, and NB PIC is junior (for a reason) to WB FO.

if having 4stripes is the only thing you care about, don’t go to SWA. I didn’t, but that’s because they didn’t invite me. I’m happy at NK, and F9 is pretty much the same thing, but it’s not the big 4. How many people leave SWA for NK/G4/F9?

Where are you getting this info?


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