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Proximity 08-20-2021 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by DownAndDirty (Post 3282375)
Where are you getting this info?

Yah. I was a fair amount over 35 and in the bottom 2/3rds of my class.

at6d 08-20-2021 01:17 PM

And a 12 year upgrade is for someone that waited. Ten is more like it for current pilots, newhires May see lower than that.

hoover 08-20-2021 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3282152)
well, if that’s you on the scooter I can understand why…..

America is currently on the scooter. You'd think this covid thing would have people getting healthier alas they are getting heavier.

Spark 08-22-2021 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3282415)
And a 12 year upgrade is for someone that waited. Ten is more like it for current pilots, newhires May see lower than that.


I was hearing that upgrade times should be coming down from that figure for current F/Os too.
I guess it depends on west vs east coast.

at6d 08-22-2021 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Spark (Post 3283351)
I was hearing that upgrade times should be coming down from that figure for current F/Os too.
I guess it depends on west vs east coast.

Ive heard the same rumor, but until I see it I’ll figure on ten from my hire date in 2015. Hopefully I will be surprised.

Spark 08-22-2021 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3283376)
Ive heard the same rumor, but until I see it I’ll figure on ten from my hire date in 2015. Hopefully I will be surprised.


I’m a mid-ish 2015 hire also. Fingers crossed!

Excargodog 08-22-2021 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3283376)
Ive heard the same rumor, but until I see it I’ll figure on ten from my hire date in 2015. Hopefully I will be surprised.

Hopefully you will be PLEASANTLY surprised. Just asking to be surprised is really tempting fate, particularly in an era when any virology Masters Degree student can do gain of function research…:eek:

at6d 08-22-2021 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3283409)
Hopefully you will be PLEASANTLY surprised. Just asking to be surprised is really tempting fate, particularly in an era when any virology Masters Degree student can do gain of function research…:eek:

Good point! The old STD test results “surprise!” Vs an unexpected upgrade surprise.

symbian simian 08-22-2021 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Proximity (Post 3282380)
Yah. I was a fair amount over 35 and in the bottom 2/3rds of my class.

Info was asking a 13 year FO.

Sorry, but having to wait till 40 to start at your career company doesn't make the whole picture better... (ask me how I know)

Also, currently about 9100 pilots, about 400 retirements per year for the next 10 years, so to get to 50% without growth takes 11 years. If you can upgrade before you hit 60% there's a reason (work weekends, xmas, 4th/7.....).

Typhoondiver 08-23-2021 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3283506)
Info was asking a 13 year FO.

Sorry, but having to wait till 40 to start at your career company doesn't make the whole picture better... (ask me how I know)

Also, currently about 9100 pilots, about 400 retirements per year for the next 10 years, so to get to 50% without growth takes 11 years. If you can upgrade before you hit 60% there's a reason (work weekends, xmas, 4th/7.....).

What airline are you talking about with 400 retirements per year?
I remember SWA numbers in the 150-200 per year region


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