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Old 10-10-2021, 12:26 PM
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Not sure why this is such a concern, guys! We already have official company communication that says this is due to weather and ATC! Can’t very well make accusations against us when you have already advertised the “cause” for this catastrophe.
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Old 10-10-2021, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by poopooplatter View Post
Not sure why this is such a concern, guys! We already have official company communication that says this is due to weather and ATC! Can’t very well make accusations against us when you have already advertised the “cause” for this catastrophe.
Until they "discover" otherwise. That's what legal discovery is about. Again, I wouldn't doubt at all that the company is in stealth legal discovery mode right now. Let's not give them ammunition to be able to change their story.
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Old 10-10-2021, 12:51 PM
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IMSAFE is private pilot 101. The company placed undue stress on you guys and you made the safest decision by staying home. I commend you all for your commitment to safety!
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Old 10-10-2021, 01:00 PM
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IMSAFE is private pilot 101. The company placed undue stress on you guys and you made the safest decision by staying home. I commend you all for your commitment to safety!
All of these sorts of ideas have been hashed out a bazillion times in past labor disputes. They don't hold water in the eyes of the courts. Again, best strategy is to be quiet and maintain the status quo. Let the union handle it with the courts. Don't make their job more difficult.
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Old 10-10-2021, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LUVisLost View Post
From looking at sick and fatigue calls there is not an appreciable spike.

Fatigue is higher but the duty day increase has increased also. I’m sure that is correlated but would require more data to analyze.

Sick calls are a drop in the bucket, not appreciable to the volume of flights.
And where do you find the stats on that??
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Old 10-10-2021, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski View Post
All of these sorts of ideas have been hashed out a bazillion times in past labor disputes. They don't hold water in the eyes of the courts. Again, best strategy is to be quiet and maintain the status quo. Let the union handle it with the courts. Don't make their job more difficult.
Please listen to this guy. While I personally feel this is mismanagement and I have not seen competing stats to indicate anything along the lines of pilot demonstration I will say if there is even a hint, a little string to pull at all to make the pilots look bad and take the heat off management they will find it and use it.

In that regard FOR THE LOVE OF GOD get your spouses off the FB hen page. It that is every leaked publicly it makes no difference what the facts indicate. It’s a PR nightmare. Jesus people…..
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Old 10-10-2021, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Up7997 View Post
A pilot group with cojones
Not SWA, obviously, but I thought much the same.

Don’t they know that gentlemen pilots are supposed to ask the officials who administer the RLA for permission to color ever so slightly outside the lines?
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Old 10-10-2021, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyward View Post
And where do you find the stats on that??
Ask the right people you would be amazed the stats that tracked….
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Old 10-10-2021, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility View Post
How quaint, you guys think you have a meltdown going on…. Spirit be like “hold my beer…”.
Best post if the day!!
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Old 10-10-2021, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LUVisLost View Post
Please listen to this guy. While I personally feel this is mismanagement and I have not seen competing stats to indicate anything along the lines of pilot demonstration I will say if there is even a hint, a little string to pull at all to make the pilots look bad and take the heat off management they will find it and use it.

In that regard FOR THE LOVE OF GOD get your spouses off the FB hen page. It that is every leaked publicly it makes no difference what the facts indicate. It’s a PR nightmare. Jesus people…..
News media is hinting at a walkout...

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-new...mains-unclear/
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