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ZapBrannigan 12-24-2021 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 3341601)
I can look at the bid pack later, but Houston has had several commutable lines every month and many more with commutable trips. A lot of them are over the weekend, so they don't go senior. You may not hold them right away, but they are definitely out there.

Lots of trips start late morning and end early evening. Last flight to BNA is generally pretty late.

I still wish they would build entire lines of PM turn AMs. 15 or 20% of the lines in domicile should be built like that to accommodate for commuters. Maybe more in domiciles where there are typically more commuters. Even if a pilot doesn’t commute today, in all likelihood he/she will commute at some point in their career.

No other major airline operates with pure AM/PM lines. Which can be both a benefit and at times a curse.

flyguy81 12-24-2021 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3341610)
I still wish they would build entire lines of PM turn AMs. 15 or 20% of the lines in domicile should be built like that to accommodate for commuters. Maybe more in domiciles where there are typically more commuters. Even if a pilot doesn’t commute today, in all likelihood he/she will commute at some point in their career.

No other major airline operates with pure AM/PM lines. Which can be both a benefit and at times a curse.


I’m done commuting. We’ve never closed a base and DEN will be the biggest in the system next year. It isn’t going anywhere…and neither am I until I can hold it in the left seat. Commuting sucks.

Noconcessions 01-03-2022 05:24 PM

An idea. Your house is your base. Each month after getting your award you subtract sick calls and make pre-planned fatigue calls. What's left is "your schedule". If "your schedule" gets changed, it is paid DT. Since the pilot put "his cards" on the table, he is positive spaced if he commutes. Both ways. A friend told me this concept.

WHACKMASTER 01-03-2022 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Noconcessions (Post 3346497)
An idea. Your house is your base. Each month after getting your award you subtract sick calls and make pre-planned fatigue calls. What's left is "your schedule". If "your schedule" gets changed, it is paid DT. Since the pilot put "his cards" on the table, he is positive spaced if he commutes. Both ways. A friend told me this concept.

……but, but, but……psychic wage!!

LuvsTacos 01-04-2022 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by Noconcessions (Post 3346497)
An idea. Your house is your base. Each month after getting your award you subtract sick calls and make pre-planned fatigue calls. What's left is "your schedule". If "your schedule" gets changed, it is paid DT. Since the pilot put "his cards" on the table, he is positive spaced if he commutes. Both ways. A friend told me this concept.


I have no idea what this means. Is this a fantasy of a commuter you met?

WHACKMASTER 01-04-2022 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3341610)
I still wish they would build entire lines of PM turn AMs. 15 or 20% of the lines in domicile should be built like that to accommodate for commuters. Maybe more in domiciles where there are typically more commuters. Even if a pilot doesn’t commute today, in all likelihood he/she will commute at some point in their career.

No other major airline operates with pure AM/PM lines. Which can be both a benefit and at times a curse.

But that’s not the way we did it in the AF. Sorry, couldn’t resist. Carry on....

Profane Kahuna 01-04-2022 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3341610)
I still wish they would build entire lines of PM turn AMs. 15 or 20% of the lines in domicile should be built like that to accommodate for commuters. Maybe more in domiciles where there are typically more commuters. Even if a pilot doesn’t commute today, in all likelihood he/she will commute at some point in their career.

No other major airline operates with pure AM/PM lines. Which can be both a benefit and at times a curse.

Yep! Anything with a noonish start that then moves up into AM finish territory would be great.

Wingbreaker 01-04-2022 09:10 PM

While we're talking fantasies, how long to hold a line in ATL right now? Did it actually come down with time?

Proximity 01-05-2022 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by Wingbreaker (Post 3347034)
While we're talking fantasies, how long to hold a line in ATL right now? Did it actually come down with time?

There are so many variables that nobody can give a definitive answer.

Do you live in ATL? If so, reserve is a good gig, other than it makes it more difficult to manipulate your schedule as you cannot ELITT reserve blocks (fixed next contract hopefully!!). Reserve at SWA is way different that other airlines.

If you don't live in ATL...then I'd be looking to commute to a base like MDW, HOU, BWI, or DEN depending on where you live. You'll likely have much more relative seniority in those domiciles.


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