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Old 05-07-2023, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mozam View Post
knowing how honest this place is , I know I am in good hands to get paid for all that would be owed to me. ( sigh)
The booking of hotels and transport during IROPS is certainly a disaster, but reimbursing hotel rooms and transport is one things that works well. The Concur app is straightforward and I've been paid with no questions in 2 days each time. I even once took a probationary FO, and 5 FAs with me to a hotel (expensive due to IROPS) plus two Uber XLs and paid for all personally and never heard anything from anyone, other than I had the money 2 days later.

I respect the choice to wait at the hotel for CHAT to find you a room, but I don't wait at the curb for more than 15 mins for transport, and I don't wait more than 30 mins after block in + 15 mins on hold to get a hotel. Anyone else is welcome to come with me.

* I don't agree with reimbursing medicals through Concur, that should just be stipend paid each January.
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Old 05-07-2023, 06:34 AM
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if I don’t have a hotel room or transportation, I’ll stay at the airport collecting DHR til someone who is responsible for sourcing said business expenses can be bothered to do their job.

If the delay makes me illegal for the next day, so be it. If I’m too tired to operate as schedule, then I’ll be fatigued. Some actuary somewhere did the math and if it doesn’t cost the company more than it’s worth to string us along, they won’t change how they prioritize rest and transportation for people who work the line.
This! Why people go out of their way to do SWA job for them is beyond me.
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Old 05-07-2023, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mulcher View Post
This! Why people go out of their way to do SWA job for them is beyond me.
Because my time is MINE. And I’m not going to waste MY time at work when I don’t have to be there. If you want to make easy hard, go for it.

I’ll be in the hotel I chose (not in an industrial park) while you stew in baggage claim. There’s a policy in place for 100% reimbursement if they fail their end. Use it or don’t….doesn’t matter to me.
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Old 05-07-2023, 07:35 AM
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Because my time is MINE. And I’m not going to waste MY time at work when I don’t have to be there. If you want to make easy hard, go for it.

I’ll be in the hotel I chose (not in an industrial park) while you stew in baggage claim. There’s a policy in place for 100% reimbursement if they fail their end. Use it or don’t….doesn’t matter to me.
This. My time is my time and I'm not spending it at the curb or *****ing in the crew room.
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Old 05-07-2023, 07:45 AM
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This. My time is my time and I'm not spending it at the curb or *****ing in the crew room.

Your choice and that’s fine. I just won’t spend my uncompensated time doing someone else’s job anymore.
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Old 05-07-2023, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Zard View Post
if I don’t have a hotel room or transportation, I’ll stay at the airport collecting DHR til someone who is responsible for sourcing said business expenses can be bothered to do their job.

If the delay makes me illegal for the next day, so be it. If I’m too tired to operate as schedule, then I’ll be fatigued. Some actuary somewhere did the math and if it doesn’t cost the company more than it’s worth to string us along, they won’t change how they prioritize rest and transportation for people who work the line.

Amen. With very few exceptions, the last thing I am going to do is put forth any effort to make myself legal for more of their operational buffoonery the next day.

Enabling this kind of behavior is the reason that they don't try to fix anything around here.

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Old 05-07-2023, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81 View Post
Because my time is MINE. And I’m not going to waste MY time at work when I don’t have to be there. If you want to make easy hard, go for it.

I’ll be in the hotel I chose (not in an industrial park) while you stew in baggage claim. There’s a policy in place for 100% reimbursement if they fail their end. Use it or don’t….doesn’t matter to me.
I get all the time I need. I’m not doing another persons job at SWA. Sling bags too. That will get ya on time. Push wheelchairs etc. How long have we been in contract talks. They don’t want me to get to the hotel. I’m on duty and the F word will be used.
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Old 05-07-2023, 09:09 AM
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Sorry where in the contract does it say to do this.? I don’t secure or pay for my transportation.
Tell them to send a Lyft link if need be.
Just call an Uber and expense it. They pay every time.
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Old 05-07-2023, 09:38 AM
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The important thing is to for what's best for YOU

Bidding straight is a contractual right

10000 individual contractors.

And we wonder why we even have to have a discussion about irop lodging/trans
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Old 05-07-2023, 11:11 AM
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It is not my job to find a hotel nor transportation after a day’s work.

What if I spend every dime I make and my credit cards are maxed out? What if I choose not to use credit cards at all? What if I don’t carry enough cash to purchase my own hotel and transportation? What if I’m just flat broke that day? The company doesn’t know this, but they shouldn’t assume that I can cover THEIR costs and their duties on a whim! Maybe I can’t afford to wait two days for my reimbursement.

Everyone has different situations going on in their lives. I shouldn’t have to budget to cover the company’s costs and duties while I’m out working four legs per day, with no time to even have warm meal most times.
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