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usmc-sgt 09-18-2023 04:51 AM

I believe it’s engines produced 2015 to 3rd quarter 2021… so quite a few of them.

Spoke to MX the other day to ask how planes are grounded… but aren’t. Said essentially between now and 2026(?) The affected ones are going down eventually, and when they do it’ll be for long while.

I believe one EU carrier with an all NEO fleet essentially closed up shop, another is doing wet leasing, and some are finding planes anywhere they can.

WHACKMASTER 09-18-2023 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 3698395)
Spoke to MX the other day to ask how planes are grounded… but aren’t. Said essentially between now and 2026(?) The affected ones are going down eventually, and when they do it’ll be for long while.

Can you elaborate more on this? Are you talking about the -700s that are parked because of lack of pilots?

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Zard 09-18-2023 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3698439)
Can you elaborate more on this? Are you talking about the -700s that are parked because of lack of pilots?

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I believe the debbil dawg Sgt is talking about the Pratt geared turbofan's on the 320 NEOs. Issues with some unobtanium coating inside them make parts crack at a higher incidence rate than normal so they have to pull the motors. Once the motors are off, I've read it's a 300 day process to replace all the parts and get the engine back on a wing.

Panthertamer79 09-18-2023 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Zard (Post 3698469)
I believe the debbil dawg Sgt is talking about the Pratt geared turbofan's on the 320 NEOs. Issues with some unobtanium coating inside them make parts crack at a higher incidence rate than normal so they have to pull the motors. Once the motors are off, I've read it's a 300 day process to replace all the parts and get the engine back on a wing.

P&W builds good motors, but dang they’ve been plagued with issues like this for decades. Not the first time in the last few years they’ve had a crippling thermal coating issue. Tough that they have such a market share of the aviation engine industry.

hercretired 09-18-2023 08:52 AM

This is not an "Airbus issue", the engineers at Airbus did not choose the metals in the PW 1000G GTF engine when they designed the Airbus.

The engine indeed is used at Frontier and Spirit on SOME of their new airplanes. The GTF engine is NOT used on any 737 to my knowledge.

ZapBrannigan 09-18-2023 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3698500)
This is not an "Airbus issue", the engineers at Airbus did not choose the metals in the PW 1000G GTF engine when they designed the Airbus.

The engine indeed is used at Frontier and Spirit on SOME of their new airplanes. The GTF engine is NOT used on any 737 to my knowledge.

Correct. The point of the thread was more, “thank god it wasn’t the Max for a change”.

It’s a major deal for airlines like Hawaiian who will have the entirety of their A321 fleet down for a while. But even for Spirit and Frontier. Their planners were counting on X number of airplanes and they’re finding out now that they’ll have to rejigger the whole schedule for fewer airplanes. That’s GOT to be a headache for the cubicle and calculator folks.


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