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Old 10-27-2023 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Yes... let's be realistic. TFP rates? Major sticking point - not agreed to. NEC contributions? Major sticking point - not agreed to. From our NC....

How do you define impasse again?
matching rates isn’t considered an impasse by the NMB.
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Old 10-27-2023 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Yungpilot
Give a prediction when you think it’ll actually happen
The longer they drag their feet, the deeper we get into the cycle. I expect they'll continue to drag their feet hoping the market turns in their favor.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/27/spir...ine-issue.html
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Old 10-27-2023 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Traffic Alert
we’re not getting released. Too much progress has been made. let’s just be realistic here. Even if we did.. and we’re not.. it would get vetoed so fast. So yeah.. get your 10 minute strike fund ready!
Actually we we are getting closer to an impasse. We are now getting to the topics where the company and the union don't want to give an inch.

What gets "vetoed"? There is no veto in the RLA.
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Old 10-27-2023 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Traffic Alert
matching rates isn’t considered an impasse by the NMB.
If only those were the only sticking points… go read your NC emails.
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Old 10-27-2023 | 08:25 PM
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Dec 9. After the FA vote closes
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Old 10-27-2023 | 09:01 PM
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It's coming. Definitely prior to EOY. We have just made too much progress recently and I think the company wants to wrap things up so they can get this off the books.
I think we have some very interesting times ahead of us. From the sound of things, I think we are headed towards TA2. There are a lot of divisive clouds hanging over language that has already been TA'd.
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Old 10-27-2023 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
The longer they drag their feet, the deeper we get into the cycle. I expect they'll continue to drag their feet hoping the market turns in their favor.
If that's their plan, I think they're in for disappointment:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...up/ar-AA1iST3v
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Old 10-28-2023 | 01:29 AM
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I am thinking the November 30th meeting, or that week sometime. I also agree we are not getting released this year, not saying we wont ever but the timing just doesnt work out with the holidays. In addition, there isnt enough time for a TA, a member vote and back to the table to come to an impasse this year.
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Old 10-28-2023 | 07:14 AM
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Are we talking an actual TA or an AIP?
I think we'll get an AIP this yr but it will get turned down by the BOD.
The company will then go into full PR mode saying how they wanted to make us the highest paid 737 pilots, delta +1 via new fangled math, in the US and blame us for their stock dumping.
then next spring we'll get an AIP that the BOD makes a TA because we will be going into summer with moral and operations way worse than now. Also throw in another 3 mini meltdowns also blamed on pilots not accepting a deal.

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Old 10-28-2023 | 07:47 AM
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If the NC and BOD are in alignment, and I believe they are, then the NC won’t AIP anything that wouldn’t make it past the BOD. I think we will know by the first week in December if the company wants a strike or a contract.
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