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Old 12-07-2023 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
To be fair they're all in on that apprenticeship garbage over there. So they just pick some rando off the street, call him a cadet, and 300 hours later he's a 737 copilot flying with a full time flight instruct...er I mean Captain. 😉
sounds safe! everyone in my class had over 10k min hours. also those EU guys don't know shlt of shlt about real weather. they just poop around. can you imagine some EU pilot working though western USA storms every day?!? nightmare clownshow. some IG dork flying right into a cell whil trying to do a IG post. OMg
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Old 12-08-2023 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
The big 3 top out around $360 per hour for a 737 captain. Guessing your top rate will be around that.

That idea is a surefire failure
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Old 12-08-2023 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 6packSteamJedi
sounds safe! everyone in my class had over 10k min hours. also those EU guys don't know shlt of shlt about real weather. they just poop around. can you imagine some EU pilot working though western USA storms every day?!? nightmare clownshow. some IG dork flying right into a cell whil trying to do a IG post. OMg
Asiana destroyed a 777 on a VFR day in SFO. I’m still amazed nobody died in that crash (think 1 pax got run over and killed by a fire truck after though).
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Old 12-08-2023 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 6packSteamJedi
sounds safe! everyone in my class had over 10k min hours. also those EU guys don't know shlt of shlt about real weather. they just poop around. can you imagine some EU pilot working though western USA storms every day?!? nightmare clownshow. some IG dork flying right into a cell whil trying to do a IG post. OMg
Ehh - maybe not massive thunderstorms, but overall, Wx in most of Europe can be pretty challenging
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Old 12-08-2023 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
The big 3 top out around $360 per hour for a 737 captain. Guessing your top rate will be around that.
It'll be slightly above that. SWA has never has a problem paying us more than "737 pilots". They did so for over a decade until the rest of the legacies caught up to us in 2015. There's only a 3 or 4% difference between "top 737" and "bottom 757/321NEOXLR..." So somewhere in the middle? My tea leaves say a slightly higher NEC/MBCBP number as well, but I guess we'll see in a few weeks.
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Old 12-08-2023 | 07:58 AM
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There are a lot of people on here convinced we're not getting 757 rates. Have you seen something that I haven't? $325 tfp (Delta 757 rate) in my personal minimum. That's about a 32% raise from $245.64 tfp. I didn't vote to Strike for less than that. That's assuming massive gains in all other areas. An industry leading 737 rate plus 1% is still not competitve in career earnings among our peers. FUPM!
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Old 12-08-2023 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by coolio2000
there are a lot of people on here convinced we're not getting 757 rates. Have you seen something that i haven't? $325 tfp (delta 757 rate) in my personal minimum. That's about a 32% raise from $245.64 tfp. I didn't vote to strike for less than that. That's assuming massive gains in all other areas. An industry leading 737 rate plus 1% is still not competitve in career earnings among our peers. Fupm!
$317 x 1.149 = $364.23
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Old 12-08-2023 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 6packSteamJedi
sounds safe! everyone in my class had over 10k min hours. also those EU guys don't know shlt of shlt about real weather. they just poop around. can you imagine some EU pilot working though western USA storms every day?!? nightmare clownshow. some IG dork flying right into a cell whil trying to do a IG post. OMg
Well obviously you have never flown any and around Europe. Was there years ago with my old job for a month and it was low vis approches almost everyday.
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Old 12-08-2023 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Coolio2000
There are a lot of people on here convinced we're not getting 757 rates. Have you seen something that I haven't? $325 tfp (Delta 757 rate) in my personal minimum. That's about a 32% raise from $245.64 tfp. I didn't vote to Strike for less than that. That's assuming massive gains in all other areas. An industry leading 737 rate plus 1% is still not competitve in career earnings among our peers. FUPM!
The 757 is going to pay about $373 per hour at the legacies in 2024 for 12 year captain. 737 around $360 in 2024 for 12 year captain. We’ll see. I’ll be shocked if you raise the bar on payrates. I’m hoping you do, but DALPA had so little faith in you that they didn’t even include you in the snap-up. Hopefully you stick it to everyone.
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Old 12-08-2023 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
The 757 is going to pay about $373 per hour at the legacies in 2024 for 12 year captain. 737 around $360 in 2024 for 12 year captain. We’ll see. I’ll be shocked if you raise the bar on payrates. I’m hoping you do, but DALPA had so little faith in you that they didn’t even include you in the snap-up. Hopefully you stick it to everyone.
That’s the plan. It would be well deserved.
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