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Smooth at FL450 02-19-2026 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 4004838)
Have to agree here. The 700s are in dire need of replacement. They will be 1 for 1 for quite a while and then once the 700s are gone, they will probably right size gauge by retiring/selling 800s. The company can’t wait to get that 700 albatross from around their necks. Those planes are all extremely high cycle and, even though they have done heavy checks, you can easily tell that they are just riding them into the dirt and not doing a lot in the way of upkeep. I swear I am calling mx on about every 5th leg in one.

your -700 maintenance experience is opposite of mine. I couldn’t tell you the last time I needed to call mx for anything beyond minor, and it’s been even longer since I even needed oil. My observation is they are tired but just as reliable as in years past.

e6bpilot 02-19-2026 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 4004903)
your -700 maintenance experience is opposite of mine. I couldn’t tell you the last time I needed to call mx for anything beyond minor, and it’s been even longer since I even needed oil. My observation is they are tired but just as reliable as in years past.

I would be interested to see the actual numbers. My sample size is pretty big (not saying yours isn’t) due to where I am based and the flying that I tend to do. I have had awful experiences with them lately. I will say, our mx is second to none and I am constantly impressed by our MEL carry rate, which has to be some of the lowest in the industry. Those planes are just trying me with constant issues.

flyguy81 02-19-2026 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 4005010)
I would be interested to see the actual numbers. My sample size is pretty big (not saying yours isn’t) due to where I am based and the flying that I tend to do. I have had awful experiences with them lately. I will say, our mx is second to none and I am constantly impressed by our MEL carry rate, which has to be some of the lowest in the industry. Those planes are just trying me with constant issues.

Wondering if the TX/CA shuffle gets more of the 700's....I just don't see them much out of DEN anymore except on the legs leaving or going to TX/CA. Maybe east coast shuffle out of BWI gets more too.

KPer 02-19-2026 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by CaptTX (Post 4004898)
I mean just look at the way SWA has gone about with upgrades across the fleet, the 700s did not get the new seat interiors, they aren't getting large overhead bins, I'm willing to bet that none of the 700s are going to get Starlink... They just need to retire them ASAP.

Company fleet plan has 170 of the 700s getting the complete cabin refresh (new bids, slim seats, LED lights) to align with the new product. They will essentially look like an 8/MAX on the inside. Expect those birds to stay in the fleet through 2030 when the company hopes to transition to an all MAX fleet.

REF 5 02-21-2026 04:55 AM

https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/airlines-lessors/southwest-airlines-eyes-early-2027-debut-boeing-737-7

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“If we get approval [in the] second half of this year, [entry into service] would be early 2027,” Barone said.

"Southwest then will have to earn its own approvals for several items it will pair with its newest variant, including left-seat head-up display (HUD). The carrier has equipped its new
737s with HUDs since 1995. "

"​​​​​​And once that happens, we’ll spend about four to six months getting them ready to get into service.”

Smooth at FL450 02-21-2026 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by REF 5 (Post 4005552)
https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/airlines-lessors/southwest-airlines-eyes-early-2027-debut-boeing-737-7

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“If we get approval [in the] second half of this year, [entry into service] would be early 2027,” Barone said.

"Southwest then will have to earn its own approvals for several items it will pair with its newest variant, including left-seat head-up display (HUD). The carrier has equipped its new
737s with HUDs since 1995. "

"​​​​​​And once that happens, we’ll spend about four to six months getting them ready to get into service.”

why would the HUD require any approval different than what every other max already has? Seems silly…

Liberty 02-21-2026 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 4005553)
why would the HUD require any approval different than what every other max already has? Seems silly…

Why stop being silly at this point?

Smooth at FL450 02-21-2026 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Liberty (Post 4005554)
Why stop being silly at this point?

as long as we’re being silly in herb time…

RJSAviator76 02-21-2026 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by REF 5 (Post 4005552)
https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/airlines-lessors/southwest-airlines-eyes-early-2027-debut-boeing-737-7

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“If we get approval [in the] second half of this year, [entry into service] would be early 2027,” Barone said.

"Southwest then will have to earn its own approvals for several items it will pair with its newest variant, including left-seat head-up display (HUD). The carrier has equipped its new
737s with HUDs since 1995. "

"​​​​​​And once that happens, we’ll spend about four to six months getting them ready to get into service.”

https://i1.sndcdn.com/avatars-000239...7-t240x240.jpg

Puck Hawg 02-22-2026 05:50 AM

There’s gotta be some reason we’re hiring 800+ this year….


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