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GoodJet 02-04-2024 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3763740)
It is.

Something else, we can also trade pairings between reserves and line holders too and across bases. So if I'm LAX reserve and want to trade a LAS lineholder for his trip, we can do that too. I don't know why most if not all legacies don't allow trades between lineholders and reserves.

My shop just shut down reserve pick up for 3 months due to the fact that reserve pick up isn't in the CBA. It's in a LOA that the company can shut down with 30 days notice. They did give reserves the ability to pick up sim sessions as seat subs on days off as a consolation prize. However the sim center is pretty empty due to slowing hiring. So I think that is more of just a token gesture. My hope is that they let us keep reserves being allowed to continue pick up seat subs when reserve pick up comes back in June. We are not athorized to pick up pilot to pilot on days off.

We can not add reserve days on days off AFAIK.

Dahflyboy18 02-04-2024 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by GoodJet (Post 3764115)
My shop just shut down reserve pick up for 3 months due to the fact that reserve pick up isn't in the CBA. It's in a LOA that the company can shut down with 30 days notice. They did give reserves the ability to pick up sim sessions as seat subs on days off as a consolation prize. However the sim center is pretty empty due to slowing hiring. So I think that is more of just a token gesture. My hope is that they let us keep reserves being allowed to continue pick up seat subs when reserve pick up comes back in June. We are not athorized to pick up pilot to pilot on days off.

We can not add reserve days on days off AFAIK.

why on earth do they care if you pick up from another pilot? That doesn’t cost the company anything

GoodJet 02-04-2024 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Dahflyboy18 (Post 3764131)
why on earth do they care if you pick up from another pilot? That doesn’t cost the company anything

It's very strange. One Union volunteer said that the line holders could use it to drop and pick up premium. I don't see it personally because there would be a lot less open time and pilots would have more flexibility. So there would be less premium and better QOL for pilots. A rare win win situation.

I have a lot of similar questions to you but this is the wrong forum. However, if I ask on the correct forum I am told that if I don't like it I should leave and go somewhere else...

mulcher 02-04-2024 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by 5tools (Post 3763987)
What? You mean the language is weak in this contract? Here's my surprised face?

Seeing the questions on FB 2028 is funny. The majority didn’t look past rates and retro. Shocking it isnt!

hoover 02-05-2024 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by mulcher (Post 3764156)
Seeing the questions on FB 2028 is funny. The majority didn’t look past rates and retro. Shocking it isnt!

I'd say the overwhelming majority didnt read it at all, including a lot of the reps.
we need to move past this idea that if the NC days it's good then everyone should just vote yes. I havent flown with a single person who knows anything about the new rules., implementation, etc.
I've stopped explaining it to them.

5tools 02-09-2024 11:04 AM

SWAPA claims this contract is the best in the industry, so that must mean the reserve rules are the best in the industry does it not? I voted no, so I'm just asking.

Dahflyboy18 02-10-2024 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by 5tools (Post 3766587)
SWAPA claims this contract is the best in the industry, so that must mean the reserve rules are the best in the industry does it not? I voted no, so I'm just asking.

Our reserve rules are pretty solid. Who has better SCR rules?

HelloNewnan 02-10-2024 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3763740)
It is.

Something else, we can also trade pairings between reserves and line holders too and across bases. So if I'm LAX reserve and want to trade a LAS lineholder for his trip, we can do that too. I don't know why most if not all legacies don't allow trades between lineholders and reserves.

It's a holdover from when reserves were supposed to be for emergencies, and not to staff the airline. Also, back in the day "reserve = junior" so everyone else gets to pad their schedule first.

As for the out of base thing, it varies, and some places (Delta) are very parochial about "their bases flying", stemming, I guess, back from when everyone was supposed to live in base. Even the contractually permitted out of base stuff gets some people shouting. But my friends from the NWA side just shrug, and say it wasn't a big deal at all there because everyone commuted anyway.

Puckpilot78 02-10-2024 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3763650)
In theory yes, but in reality it is very difficult because of the way they build the buffers for your future block time.

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Originally Posted by GoodJet (Post 3763651)
Thank you

(filler)

The buffers are changing Q3 of this year. Section 9G goes into detail. According to what I heard on the podcasts/roadshows it should reduce the buffers to a more reasonable level allowing for greater pickup options. It also fixes an issue of "synthetic liabilites" where the system couldn't see the actual amount of flying due to tech debt and so used a more restrictive number than necessary. Guess we'll see how it plays out in practice but there should be an improvement.


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