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thatpilotbro 02-02-2024 05:32 PM

Reserve Rules with new CBA
 
How are the new Reserve rules in the new CBA by comparison to the old contract and the other majors? Vast improvements or not much change?

flyguy81 02-02-2024 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by thatpilotbro (Post 3763162)
How are the new Reserve rules in the new CBA by comparison to the old contract and the other majors? Vast improvements or not much change?

A lot better. No LCR but pretty much improved in every other way.

Smooth at FL450 02-02-2024 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by thatpilotbro (Post 3763162)
How are the new Reserve rules in the new CBA by comparison to the old contract and the other majors? Vast improvements or not much change?

15 minutes extra callout time implemeted at DOR.
short notice callout provisions (premium pay day 1 and close in parking) starts March 1.
LCO pay multiples apply to reserve as of Feb 1.

the other big changes are down the road.

CA1900 02-02-2024 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 3763194)
short notice callout provisions (premium pay day 1 and close in parking) starts March 1.

Close-in parking or Uber Black to/from your house! I'd be all over that to avoid the parking goat rope at my airport.

hoover 02-02-2024 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 3763194)
15 minutes extra callout time implemeted at DOR.
short notice callout provisions (premium pay day 1 and close in parking) starts March 1.
LCO pay multiples apply to reserve as of Feb 1.

the other big changes are down the road.

yeah but we also gave them the ability to slide our reserve times so they could get out of that short notice call and all that comes with it.
Who knows how reserve proffer and ELLIT will work but thata not for 2 yrs so who cares.
I wouldnt go to say vastly better but it claws some of the pain back.
Straight senority on reserve call out would have made it go more senior.
Bottom line is if you're on reserve you're going to work

Smooth at FL450 02-02-2024 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3763214)
yeah but we also gave them the ability to slide our reserve times so they could get out of that short notice call and all that comes with it.

no we didn't. They've always had the ability to customize rap times and do it monthly by base. What this CBA did do is lock those times in and add extra pay. You think they are going to burn everyones' duty day by an extra hour just to save the occasional premium pay? I don't. Talk about shooting themselves in their own foot!

hoover 02-03-2024 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 3763238)
no we didn't. They've always had the ability to customize rap times and do it monthly by base. What this CBA did do is lock those times in and add extra pay. You think they are going to burn everyones' duty day by an extra hour just to save the occasional premium pay? I don't. Talk about shooting themselves in their own foot!

they've always had the ability to move a 0300 rap to 0230? I didnt know that.

flyguy81 02-03-2024 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3763385)
they've always had the ability to move a 0300 rap to 0230? I didnt know that.

They can’t change your RAP unless it’s a legality issue…supposedly.

CA1900 02-03-2024 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy81 (Post 3763594)
They can’t change your RAP unless it’s a legality issue…supposedly.

Not only that, but the end of the RAP cannot be pushed back, so it will simply make your day shorter if the start has to be adjusted for legality. And it can't be pushed back more than 60 minutes -- any more than that, and you simply get the whole day off, with pay.

hoover 02-03-2024 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy81 (Post 3763594)
They can’t change your RAP unless it’s a legality issue…supposedly.

so instead of paying premium because the flight doesnt fit a reserve RAP they now can move the RAP so it fits. Genius
There is some stuff in this contract that'll have to fixed in 10 year that wasnt in there a month ago.


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