Scoop

Even though a lot of different airlines are in a similar situation, I am posting this here because of the high knowledge level of 737s at SWA. What is the status with the new EICAS requirement? I remember something about a two year grandfather period and then all new aircraft being required to have a modern EICAS system. Has Boeing received a waiver, is this still a requirment, or has this whole issue been eliminated?

This was all over the news a while back but I have not seen anything about it recently.

Thanks Scoop

Smooth at FL450

Thanks to google...

"In December 2022, the US Congress exempted the Boeing 737 Max 7 and 10 variants from the requirement to install a modern crew alert system. The whole Boeing 737 Max generation has been allowed to continue operating a decentralised warning system at a 1977 standard."

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo...977%20standard.

Shrek

MAX 7s and 10s need EICAS.

Smooth at FL450

no they don't.

e6bpilot

Do you fly the Max?

GoodJet

2+ years on certification for the MAX 7 and 10.

FlintMike

Why? If the anti ice system gets certified by the end of the year so will the Max7… . There was reporting that the anti ice replacement possibly started wind tunnel testing last month.

GoodJet

When they finish testing and complete the project it will take the FAA 2 years to certify.

Fixedwing17

Do you have a link to where you saw this? I'm trying to keep close tabs on the Max 7 certification but haven't found much info. Thanks.

FlintMike

The Max 7 is ready for certification but lacks a waiver they are not currently going to get.

There was an article in Feb that Boeing addressed putting substantial efforts into an engineering fix with the FAA for certification that was possible by the end of the year. It discussed the possibility of starting wind tunnel testing in March. If it is going to take another 2 years as was hypothesized in a previous comment to my post for the FAA to certify it…then the Max 7 can be certified once Boeing submits a request for another waiver for the anti ice system… . Boeing withdrew the request due to their current quality control issues and to appease a threat from a Senator. After the election that Senator might not have the juice to keep the threat alive. So a new Congress in Jan plus quality control improvements by Boeing could get the Max 7 certified by the first part of next year easily in my opinion which means little. The anti ice fix is to follow as it is apparently not an exigent safety issue… . If it was all Max’s would be grounded. Over 6.5 million flight hours tells me it can wait until the end of the year or 5 years… . The Max 7 will fly! I am curious if the performance will be comparable to the 757… .

Boeing seems to think their production rate will get back to 38/month sometime in the second half of the year. Their 747 production line is being converted to a 737 production line and should be operational next year increasing the production rate provided the FAA lifts the 38 cap. Now…words are meaningless without action behind them. Can Boeing pull all this off? You can get a tremendous amount done when you turn a problem into a crisis… . Boeing is in a crisis.