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Old 07-10-2024 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Bob was about as inspirational as a wet sock, but I will always admire him for quitting the VP gig when he did.

Which is still more inspirational than BoJo….
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Old 07-10-2024 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
He returned to the line here I thought. He fell on his sword after the "clean kill" incident, can't say I blame him. Not really any path forward after 65 for him here, so I am guessing he took his toys and went somewhere else. Not really a bad move IMO.
I am also guessing that he is "management material" but had already poisoned the waters at SWA and wanted a fresh start. Bob was about as inspirational as a wet sock, but I will always admire him for quitting the VP gig when he did. I doubt this has anything to do with an impending merger, as Bob was thrown out of the cool kids club when he resigned.

Why any line pilot would ever what to work in the management pit of vipers is beyond me, but I am glad some do I guess. I would 10 times much rather pull a BG and fly 330 TFP in June and out-earn all of them with the exception of maybe the top 5 in the exec washroom. To each their own, though.
Thanks for the perspective for a Sunny guy. Jumped over here to see if anyone was discussing this as I read some rough stuff about him on the internet machine. This gives me an open mind. Sounds like, perhaps, he went down a rabbit hole and met Alice. I've been there. No good way out but to punch out.

I'd be a straight fwd gig for himhere at SY as he's not replacing Eisenhower. If he comes onboard and brings us up to AQP by definition vice name only, well, we'll all dance at his wedding. It's not a high bar.....

Cheers fellow 73 dudes. Y'all ever get sick of pax, FAs, and all that money you make, come look us up. Flying packages for Bezos ain't too bad. Every plane has a pinup of Lauren.
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Old 07-10-2024 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Everyone should listen to the latest SWAPA podcast on the Elliot issue.
I have great admiration for SWAPA's EF&A guys and the leadership. They do a great job but Elliott is not something SWAPA has ever had to deal with. Nobody knows for sure. SWAPA just better have legal to help.
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Old 07-10-2024 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by REF 5
I have great admiration for SWAPA's EF&A guys and the leadership. They do a great job but Elliott is not something SWAPA has ever had to deal with. Nobody knows for sure. SWAPA just better have legal to help.
It’s sad to say that Elliot has provided more sit down and discussion time with SWAPA vs. the Company. And what I mean is the company has provided zero.
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Old 07-11-2024 | 06:48 AM
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Why don't all you future back seat SWA CEO's apply for the job? You seem to have all the answers.
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Old 07-11-2024 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
It’s sad to say that Elliot has provided more sit down and discussion time with SWAPA vs. the Company. And what I mean is the company has provided zero.
They already had at least one sit down with BOD. Not much too say. "All of you need to be fired!". "Your airline sucks and you have no plan". "We have a plan and we are working on bringing to the public in the fall." Here's a poison pill and Gangwall. Now go cry to SWAPA and see if Vanguard, Capital and PrimeCap will change their minds. Have nice day.
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Old 07-11-2024 | 07:53 AM
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It’s sad to say that Elliot has provided more sit down and discussion time with SWAPA vs. the Company.​​​​​​
What has Elliott have to say to the BOD? "All of you need to be fired. You have no plan." That will go well. It would be interesting to hear concrete solutions from them but nothing as of yet. I'm pretty sure the BOD and GK smiled and said we'll take under advisement. Have a nice day. Heres your poison pill and Gangwall. Now go and try to convince Vanguard, PrimeCap and Capital.
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Old 07-12-2024 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by khergan
I think they are trying to do the same thing that SWA people here in this forum have complained about: antiquated business model, outdated IT infrastructure, broken boarding system, etc. Clearly the leadership in place currently doesn't want to do anything about it, so why not support Elliott's attempt to make the company better?
So SWA is going to change because people on this board are complaning? Wow. That's like all the SWAPA guys complaining about SWA, then go over a take a managment job by the dozens.
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Old 07-13-2024 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 5tools
So SWA is going to change because people on this board are complaning? Wow. That's like all the SWAPA guys complaining about SWA, then go over a take a managment job by the dozens.
You don't read well, do you?

Finish the paragraph, champ.
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Old 07-14-2024 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 5tools
So SWA is going to change because people on this board are complaning? Wow. That's like all the SWAPA guys complaining about SWA, then go over a take a managment job by the dozens.
Wherever you work I am sure there are lots of bid avoids with your name on it. Now its time to add you to the Ignore list here.
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