Low flight over OKC
06-22-2024 | 11:06 PM
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Fair points.
My fingers went faster than my brain. Not unusual..What I should've said was, "I don't accept visual clearances at certain points unless I have positively identified the airport and runway." Especially at night and at airports that I may not frequent as much. Regardless, I don't get in a hurry to let the controllers off the hook..
06-23-2024 | 01:21 AM
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Fair points.
My fingers went faster than my brain. Not unusual..What I should've said was, "I don't accept visual clearances at certain points unless I have positively identified the airport and runway." Especially at night and at airports that I may not frequent as much. Regardless, I don't get in a hurry to let the controllers off the hook..
My fingers went faster than my brain. Not unusual..What I should've said was, "I don't accept visual clearances at certain points unless I have positively identified the airport and runway." Especially at night and at airports that I may not frequent as much. Regardless, I don't get in a hurry to let the controllers off the hook..
F that. Our taxes pay their salaries. Help them help you stay safe. .
06-23-2024 | 04:54 AM
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Feds are not there to ask questions. They are there to observe. If they ever ask me a question about procedures/policy/regs/etc I refer them to our standards department to have their questions answered. Not pertinent to my flight, and a fed Jumpseater is not going to give me an oral.
06-23-2024 | 05:06 AM
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I've been flying to OKC for 33 years. I've never landed on 13 or 31. There are 2 longer runways available, both with ILS's. I believe this potential smoking hole occurred late at night.
Long day, tired. I want all the help I can get. ILS, lots of concrete. Hit the easy button. 13 saved them what, a minute? Doesn't seem worth it now.
It's a job, not an adventure.
Long day, tired. I want all the help I can get. ILS, lots of concrete. Hit the easy button. 13 saved them what, a minute? Doesn't seem worth it now.
It's a job, not an adventure.
06-23-2024 | 05:19 AM
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I've been flying to OKC for 33 years. I've never landed on 13 or 31. There are 2 longer runways available, both with ILS's. I believe this potential smoking hole occurred late at night.
Long day, tired. I want all the help I can get. ILS, lots of concrete. Hit the easy button. 13 saved them what, a minute? Doesn't seem worth it now.
It's a job, not an adventure.
Long day, tired. I want all the help I can get. ILS, lots of concrete. Hit the easy button. 13 saved them what, a minute? Doesn't seem worth it now.
It's a job, not an adventure.
if there’s a GPS Approach, then it should be fine.
honest question I don’t know the 737 since I fly an Airbus. Does the 737 capture the pseudo glideslope on a GPS approach??? is a GPS approach really that difficult on a 737?
The pilot should’ve been thinking to themselves. Why am I full scale deflection low on this GPS approach???
06-23-2024 | 06:17 AM
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I've been flying to OKC for 33 years. I've never landed on 13 or 31. There are 2 longer runways available, both with ILS's. I believe this potential smoking hole occurred late at night.
Long day, tired. I want all the help I can get. ILS, lots of concrete. Hit the easy button. 13 saved them what, a minute? Doesn't seem worth it now.
It's a job, not an adventure.
Long day, tired. I want all the help I can get. ILS, lots of concrete. Hit the easy button. 13 saved them what, a minute? Doesn't seem worth it now.
It's a job, not an adventure.
Do you demand the longest runway everywhere you go? If so, I can't imagine that goes very well for you.
06-23-2024 | 06:19 AM
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yeah, but is there at least a GPS approach to back it up?
if there’s a GPS Approach, then it should be fine.
honest question I don’t know the 737 since I fly an Airbus. Does the 737 capture the pseudo glideslope on a GPS approach??? is a GPS approach really that difficult on a 737?
The pilot should’ve been thinking to themselves. Why am I full scale deflection low on this GPS approach???
if there’s a GPS Approach, then it should be fine.
honest question I don’t know the 737 since I fly an Airbus. Does the 737 capture the pseudo glideslope on a GPS approach??? is a GPS approach really that difficult on a 737?
The pilot should’ve been thinking to themselves. Why am I full scale deflection low on this GPS approach???
06-23-2024 | 06:19 AM
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yeah, but is there at least a GPS approach to back it up?
if there’s a GPS Approach, then it should be fine.
honest question I don’t know the 737 since I fly an Airbus. Does the 737 capture the pseudo glideslope on a GPS approach??? is a GPS approach really that difficult on a 737?
The pilot should’ve been thinking to themselves. Why am I full scale deflection low on this GPS approach???
if there’s a GPS Approach, then it should be fine.
honest question I don’t know the 737 since I fly an Airbus. Does the 737 capture the pseudo glideslope on a GPS approach??? is a GPS approach really that difficult on a 737?
The pilot should’ve been thinking to themselves. Why am I full scale deflection low on this GPS approach???
06-23-2024 | 06:31 AM
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Landing on a 7800 foot dry runway in a 737 in with light winds and visual conditions, is almost zero addotional risk. There is a operational gain from using runway 13. I woudl have no problem landing in 13 or departing 31.
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