SWA no longer covering LOM for a FAA hold.

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10-13-2025 | 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hoover

The short answer is SW disability or whatever program you want to use kicks in if you no longer have a current valid medical. Doesn't matter why. If you can't fly for a medical reason you get paid by the benefits.

yes, it does matter why. Try just not going to your AME and letting your medical expire and see if it matters then. There are other reasons as well, like self inflicted injuries.

10-13-2025 | 02:30 PM

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It does matter when a situation is reported. Also, at WN we have the 60-day period which I assume is common in the STD/LTD insurance plans we subscribe to.

10-13-2025 | 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkerpilot05

I work for NetJets and about a year ago our company stopped using LOM for a FAA hold. So, we have a handful of pilots who, once they have exhausted PTO days, are now without a paycheck while they wait. Some of these waits have been as long a 2 months. Unfortunately we never codified this in or LOM language and are stuck with this. As this has been a contentious issue, our union mentioned that this is not unheard of. It was published that SWA no longer covers FAA holds too. Is this true?

This has to be an AI bot post

10-13-2025 | 05:22 PM

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How so????

10-14-2025 | 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

yes, it does matter why. Try just not going to your AME and letting your medical expire and see if it matters then. There are other reasons as well, like self inflicted injuries.

I didn't know that. So if youre dumb and get hurt skiing and break a leg you can't use LTD?

10-14-2025 | 12:12 PM

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I think he’s getting at letting your medical lapse, having a reportable issue that would require special issuance, and trying to get your medical back at that point. Or something.

10-14-2025 | 12:21 PM

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I think he’s getting at letting your medical lapse, having a reportable issue that would require special issuance, and trying to get your medical back at that point. Or something.

yeah that would make sense, I guess I figured that was kinda assumed and didn't need to spell it out. But you know what they say...

10-17-2025 | 04:26 AM

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I didn't know that. So if youre dumb and get hurt skiing and break a leg you can't use LTD?

self inflicted injury refers to something like a suicide attempt or intentional cutting (self-harm), not an accident.

10-17-2025 | 04:30 AM

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self inflicted injury refers to something like a suicide attempt or intentional cutting (self-harm), not an accident.

I would think that is a mental health issue and the pilot would be covered. There is a good conversation going on in the health section on mental health and suicide.

I am sure you are incorrect on this . That would be terrible to kick somebody to the curb because they have mental issues.. it is people like you and the way you think that make piolts with mental health issues hide them and not seek help.

Do not shoot the Messenger. I am just calling it as I see it.