AirTran MEC Rejects SLI proposal
#581
I am not trying to cast the AT folks in an unflattering way with this statement, but simply trying to refute what you say on an equipment level. I assure you I in no way feel "superior" to any pilot no matter what equipment they fly, we all do exactly the same job for goodness sake. I am making these statements only to point out that I do not agree with your logic. Alluding that this is different because it contains differing pieces of equipment is ludicrous. Many AT pilots made their choice to go to AT just as I made my choice to leave the top 10% of a regional airline to move to the bottom of the SWA list. I don't fault them for the choices they made and I expect that they don't fault mine. The fact is we both chose to go to two very different airlines. The 717 is 60% of their fleet. Boeing simply disagrees with your statement.
Boeing Introduces 717-200 Airplane as New Regional Jet
SEATTLE, Jan. 08, 1998 -- The Boeing Company today introduced and renamed the newest member of its commercial airplane family -- the Boeing 717-200 twinjet.
"The 717-200 is uniquely qualified to meet the evolving requirements of the new regional jetliner market," said Ron Woodard, president, Boeing Commercial Airplane Group. "It's a 100-seat airplane market that demands comfort, low operating costs and high schedule reliability. This is the plane to meet that need."
Boeing: Boeing Introduces 717-200 Airplane as New Regional Jet
Boeing Introduces 717-200 Airplane as New Regional Jet
SEATTLE, Jan. 08, 1998 -- The Boeing Company today introduced and renamed the newest member of its commercial airplane family -- the Boeing 717-200 twinjet.
"The 717-200 is uniquely qualified to meet the evolving requirements of the new regional jetliner market," said Ron Woodard, president, Boeing Commercial Airplane Group. "It's a 100-seat airplane market that demands comfort, low operating costs and high schedule reliability. This is the plane to meet that need."
Boeing: Boeing Introduces 717-200 Airplane as New Regional Jet
It is currently operated by contracted carriers for companies that in many cases do not much more than supply the pilots, flight attendants, and maintenance.
Now you go so far as to compare the AirTran guys to outsourced, contracted regional jobs? That's comical! There is no logical comparison no matter how much you want there to be one.
FYI- the CRJ-900's that are outsourced are 76 seats.
#582
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The regional flying that you think is so "comical" for us to want to take back is what was outsourced years ago or stolen during bankruptcy.
It is currently operated by contracted carriers for companies that in many cases do not much more than supply the pilots, flight attendants, and maintenance.
Now you go so far as to compare the AirTran guys to outsourced, contracted regional jobs? That's comical! There is no logical comparison no matter how much you want there to be one.
FYI- the CRJ-900's that are outsourced are 76 seats.
It is currently operated by contracted carriers for companies that in many cases do not much more than supply the pilots, flight attendants, and maintenance.
Now you go so far as to compare the AirTran guys to outsourced, contracted regional jobs? That's comical! There is no logical comparison no matter how much you want there to be one.
FYI- the CRJ-900's that are outsourced are 76 seats.
#583
Did you just say I fly an RJ?
Huh? I checked the back of my license and it actually says I'm typed in the DC-9 (and the 737, but someone else paid for that, too).
So, using your logic (which I'm sure management would love you to continue to use), the 737-500 is an RJ also? Make sure to let management know during the next Section 6 negotiations that the only difference between a CRJ900 and a 737-800 is the number of seats installed.
Please, continue to base your arguments on press releases issued 13 years ago.
Huh? I checked the back of my license and it actually says I'm typed in the DC-9 (and the 737, but someone else paid for that, too).
So, using your logic (which I'm sure management would love you to continue to use), the 737-500 is an RJ also? Make sure to let management know during the next Section 6 negotiations that the only difference between a CRJ900 and a 737-800 is the number of seats installed.
Please, continue to base your arguments on press releases issued 13 years ago.
#584
What I find comical is the hypocrisy. I never made any statements that said AT were outsourced regional jobs, I am simply pointing out the similarities to some of the equipment AT operates to the Delta Connection equipment that you claim is so different. FYI- the CRJ-900's that are outsourced are certificated as 90 seaters and Delta pulls out 14 of them to remain within scope limitations, just as NW did with the Avro.
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#589
Yes. After AIP1 (Agreement in Principle 1) didn't make it past the ATN MEC, they negotiated another deal. The ATN MEC votes on it today at 10am.
Road shows start Friday. No idea when the membership vote starts.
We haven't seen the details, but it is generally thought AIP2 will be worse than AIP1.
Road shows start Friday. No idea when the membership vote starts.
We haven't seen the details, but it is generally thought AIP2 will be worse than AIP1.
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