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DickBurns 02-26-2017 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by captlonestar (Post 2309485)
Guys if you tear down our union and other pilots you are doing exactly what the company wants. Be smarter than that.. remember it's the company you should be taking this out on, not our own.

I would think the strike vote would be a much higher number that some people on here give our pilots credit for. Just because a pilot isn't actively trying to move on says nothing about their testicular fortitude. That has to stop. Putting pressure on the union to take a more aggressive stance isn't bad... It's how it's supposed to work.

Timeismoney 02-26-2017 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 2309394)
I think this is the reason they haven't taken a strike vote. We have too many chicken !@#$ pilots among our ranks who are just glad that it's not as bad as Mesa. I've never worked among so many spineless pilots.


Spineless maybe but greedy for sure!!! Take the vote, I think they will find that most are either 😤 off or desperately needing the pay increase. 15 percent might be spineless but like I said 100 percent of use are greedy. Just look at the standing available list in FLL!!! Everyone please wake up and let's start playing hardball.

NoAccoutrements 02-26-2017 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Timeismoney (Post 2309493)
Spineless maybe but greedy for sure!!! Take the vote, I think they will find that most are either �� off or desperately needing the pay increase. 15 percent might be spineless but like I said 100 percent of use are greedy. Just look at the standing available list in FLL!!! Everyone please wake up and let's start playing hardball.

Take a Spring Break from flying and turn your phone OFF for Easter Week and spring break travel season.

STRIKE VOTE NOW!

beverage 02-26-2017 04:26 PM

The guys on the standing available list are the same every month. Blah blah, "I make them release and JA" or " I drop my month and pickup" excuses are not holding water at this point. Not only is it not all about you, "you" are hurting "you" along with the rest of us in the long run.

Its ironic that some of the most vocal bi**hers are SA regulars.

Even more saddening is seeing union leaders/reps on there...smh

Plane Ramrod 02-26-2017 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2309413)
Take a look at the RSV AVAILABILTY list in Vegas. It shows credit for those on RSV or with a Relief line. Plenty of chokers over 110+ one guy over 170hrs.......

Nothing will change

I'm picturing a chimp behind a monitor wearing a visor going over the SA list in all bases. You need to spend more time on your hobbies my friend, you're going to pop a vessel the way you are going!

I agree that once the financials are out there and it doesn't look good, it's time for a strike vote. No reason to stroke out about it. I'm betting we'd be in the 97-98 % range

Qotsaautopilot 02-26-2017 09:14 PM

I think the NC can do the job. IMO we need some bad press for spirit on the labor front!

dn_wisconsin 02-27-2017 01:53 AM


Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod (Post 2309629)
I'm picturing a chimp behind a monitor wearing a visor going over the SA list in all bases. You need to spend more time on your hobbies my friend, you're going to pop a vessel the way you are going!

I agree that once the financials are out there and it doesn't look good, it's time for a strike vote. No reason to stroke out about it. I'm betting we'd be in the 97-98 % range

I think that's exactly what the MEC is thinking Ram. A strike vote before the financials might be too soon. However, I think most of us are now beyond frustration because of the last session and want to vote now. So we might get one.

Gunga Din 02-27-2017 02:54 AM


Originally Posted by Conquistador27 (Post 2309351)
Just out of curiosity, what happens if they go ahead with a strike vote and the numbers turn out to be in the 70 or 80 percent range? Not saying I don't agree with you, I'm just saying that would not be a good number to toss out there. I only say this because I heard from a friend who had a brother who was a roommate of somebody that said that was the number they were kinda expecting from a vote. I for one would rather the company think it might be 95 plus percent than to actually vote and it be much, much lower than that. Just my opinion.

And you may be right. As it stands we may only get a 60% approval for a strike. Now, why is that do you think? Is it because 40% of us like being undervalued by more than half of what our peers make?
Or is because our group is led by some who would rather get along and come to agreement eventually?
I think we have a leadership that themselves don't feel any real pressure to rock the boat. It's much warmer from the box seats.

Chimpy 02-27-2017 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod (Post 2309629)
I'm picturing a chimp behind a monitor wearing a visor going over the SA list in all bases. You need to spend more time on your hobbies my friend, you're going to pop a vessel the way you are going!

I agree that once the financials are out there and it doesn't look good, it's time for a strike vote. No reason to stroke out about it. I'm betting we'd be in the 97-98 % range

:D You may or may not know me but I'm really not that much of a lunatic, lol.

Shortie 02-27-2017 04:20 AM

I have great disdain for our management team members. They have again proven they have no interest in negotiating in good faith. The company's harassment of crewmembers who legitimately use sick time should have resulted in a grievance by the union. And yet, we still have people on the standing available list ready to help the company at a moments notice and sell out their fellow pilots. We need to be a unified group. We also need a strike vote. This has got to change!

Jetblue get profit sharing and raises during negotiations. We get harassment and high fives.

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